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spotUPwhat's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 06:07
the morphos source is here:
http://natmeg.stamey.at/ports/vlc-0.8.6f-morphos_beta6_source.lha

just curious. i prefer vlc on all other platforms.
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afxgroupRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 09:49  #180
@spotUP

the time and the lack of developers
orginRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 10:45  #181
@spotUP

People asking for it instead of porting it?
spotUPRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 12:13  #182
@orgin

trying to go smart ass on me? :P
i am trying to figure out if there is some obvious show stopper here..
mrodfrRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 12:32  #183
@all

On the readme:

2008.05.22 - beta4
------------------
Implemented DVD support with menus and mouse-control through libdvdnav.


Also could be great to have libdvdnav ported as a library (same as libdvdcss) for supporting DVD menus on DVplayer and others programs.


For sure, the afxgroup is the best answer for this subject.
hotrodRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101217 23:04  #210
@mrodfr

I just love what afxgroup had done for the Amiga community BUT releasing software with serious issues are very annoying. MPlayer that doesn't do a clean exit amongst other things, forcing you to reboot after a few youtube clips with ClipDown and Transmission. Transmission *really* needs one or two upgrades.

I don't want a half-working program with lots of issues never being fixed.

I'm sorry if I'm sounding harsh but important software that are allmost working can be really annoying.
ThematicRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 10:47  #217
@hotrod

The same program also handles high resolution video playback on an old processor really well. So it's really not something that should've kept collecting dust somewhere.

That said, it would be a welcome change if there was vlc or any one program that could be used for all video playback.
PhantomRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 12:32  #218
@Thematic

It's better to have just one, but very good player, than 2-3 players that aren't working 100%.
hotrodRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 13:47  #222
@Thematic

VLC? On my Mac with two G5 CPUs it can't play full-hd files, another program are needed for that to work.

Also when I tried VLC vs MPlayer on a Windows machine MPlayer was slightly faster and just managed to play a 720p file which didn't play without frameskip with VLC.

In other words, I haven't seen that it's faster than MPlayer but I do agree that it's an easy to use player and works with pretty much anything.
afxgroupRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 13:57  #224
@hotrod

Sorry, but i had no problem with mplayer on exit. I never tried it with Clipdown and i don't know if it cause problems with it vut running mplayer from command line or from WB doesn't cause any problem on exit. and i've tried it on a SAM and on an A1. I never heard something about this problem so i cannot fix something that i cannot see.
MPlayer actually is also used on AMC and is a newer version adapted for AMC. Yes it has some problems during streaming but these problems are caused not by the port but from MPlayer itself. The people doesn't understand that OS like Linux, Windows or MAC cure a lot of bad code while on OS4 the first problem in the software cause a DSI.
Since MPlayer for OS4 is not official supported by MPlayer developer they cannot fix anything until someone doesn't point the problem. And since five years i've only hear complains about half-working software.
Another example is OWB. All speak about the problems but no one has tried to compile it. Maybe it is time to understand that we are not in the Linux world where a lot of people works on the software.
Do you want VLC? Complile it. You don't know anything about C, Basic, Forrtan or Pascal? Buy a book an learn it. Otherwise don't ask people always the same things.
Transmission is not developed since ages. Do you want the sources and adapt it with latest official changes? Drop me a mail and i'll send it to you. Maybe you have a lot of free time to do this.
Maybe is not clear that we do this in our FREE TIME and sometimes we avoid to do other to develop for an half-dead platform. And when i read comments like this i prefer to do some other durimg my free time.
kas1eRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 14:33  #228
@afxgroup

Btw, i also have GR on exit in mplayer from time to time, if you in interest i can send GR logs. But as i know other ones start to works on it ? (varthall and abalaban)
PhantomRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 14:34  #229
@kas1e

I don't have these quit problems with MPlayer though.
kas1eRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 14:39  #231
@Phantom
Good for you. Latest mplayer and latest os ? Or you run it on 3.9 which not dead ?:)
PhantomRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 14:54  #235
@kas1e

Roman, please calm down. I'm not here to argue with anybody.
kas1eRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 15:14  #240
@Phantom

But did you have latest mplayer and latest os ? For me it crashes not all the time, and mostly not crashes from first 1-2 times. It happens usually on third run. For one and first run, everything fine (all the latest stuff, and latest mplayer).
PhantomRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 15:15  #241
@kas1e

You drunk too much vodka! DA!

I use the latest OS with the latest update and I think that I use the latest MPlayer too.
kas1eRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 15:29  #243
@SpotUP

Btw, i get the sources, imho pretty possible to port, but need some work for sure (cross-compiler are need it, because of : autoconf, automake, autoheader and so on).

Also there is some modules, which morphos specific, like for example cgx_tinygl.c and all the morphos specific stuff use CGX (which can cause a bit problems as well).

So possible to port, but need to do some work on it.
PhantomRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 16:02  #244
@kas1e

Roman, I believe that it's time to start porting a nice tool that we need (like a video player, like VLC) and let the games out for the time being, what would you say about that? :-)
kas1eRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 16:49  #245
@Phantom

:) Sounds good, but for now i trying to spend all the time to make mui-owb compiles for os4, hope to have initial exe in the next days if all will going well, and then, adding of those mui4 stuff which we make as "dummy" for now to replace (the most hard part, but for which Deniil will help pretty much, he already help a lot with hook rewritings, etc).
TSKRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 17:34  #248
@kas1e

Deniil will help pretty much, he already help a lot with hook rewritings, etc

That's very good. Multiple developers helping each other so nobody have to work alone.

@thread
Mplayer. I don't (usually or ever) have exit crashes but if I use playlist of Mplayer-GUI then it crashes between two videos. Ignoring errors I guess Grim reaper doesn't ask same error twice so no further crashes playing longer playlists. I guess some crashes are depended on used codec as well.
hotrodRe: what's holding back vlc from being ported to os4?20101218 18:10  #251
@afxgroup

I thought that you would be insulted with what I wrote and I'm sorry, I tried to put it in a way for you to understand that I really appreciate what you're doing for the Amiga plattform, I really do.

However the issues with MPlayer has been discussed a lot and the development has now been taken over by someone else because of this, I thought you knew about this?

It's been writen here and at aw.net so I was sure you had seen it.

Either way, I'm using this half-dead plattform and when software that you need for a good experience aren't working it's killing the experience be it on Linux, Windows or whatever plattform. It isn't fun to be forced to reboot your computer all the time because of software not being stable and that is just the way it is. It isn't insulting and don't worry I AM using Windows just because of that so that half-dead plattform can rest untill there are stable software available.
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