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Posted on: 2010/7/18 18:37:25
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Instead of whining,maybe we should try and help joerg and port this gstreamer for him?
Or if no one can maybe we can try to motivate him with money?
I think this is the site: http://www.gstreamer.net/
@joerg
I'm quite confident that nearly all of us are very happy that you work hard on owb. And hope you will continue with that.
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is it possible in the future, Joerg?
OWB uses GStreamer for HTML5 audio and video, if someone ports it to AmigaOS 4.x I'll use it in the AmigaOS 4.x OWB.
As for the other comments I wont reply to most of them, but I have to correct at least some of the worst nonsense:
- afxgroup didn't port anything in OWB to AmigaOS 4.x, he "just" built the SDL version for AmigaOS 4.x. That's the whole point of OWB: It's a very simple (no GUI at all, no support for multiple windows, etc.) browser for CE devices which can be built for any system without changes.
- I didn't remove AmigaOS 4.x support in the CMakefiles, there never was anything I could have removed.
- I implemented support for downloads myself in the AmigaOS 4.x OWB, before the download code from the AROS author was added to the OWB SVN.
Since most people seem to think the AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB it's useless crap I guess I wont waste my time on it any more.
Maybe you'll find someone else who is stupid enough to port the AROS version (required if you want to have support for tabs) or the MorphOS version of OWB to AmigaOS 4.1, but I very much doubt it.
Edited by ssolie on 2010/7/20 17:39:41
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Posted on: 2010/7/18 19:25:23
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@Joerg
The other thread is locked now, so I'll say this here. I do NOT think that the OS 4 port of OWB is crap. Naturally I wish that it would advance faster but, as a developer myself, I realize how much effort that involves, and how hard it can be to find the time to work on it.
Please don't abandon your OS 4 port. Like you said, it's highly unlikely that anyone will make a proper attempt of porting one of the other versions. Besides, continuing with the existing port would be more productive than porting a new version, even if it is from an Amiga like OS.
@Antique
I sincerely hope that someone will have a go at porting gstreamer. OWB isn't the only open-source application that uses it, so having it available will increase other possibilities.
Another possibility could be for someone to help with OWB directly. I'm sure that things such as a download manager or an address book could be developed and integrated by someone other than Joerg.
@all
Joerg has a donation tipping jar on his website. If you think that he hasn't done much with OWB, try digging up an older version, and compare its performance with the performance of the current one. It's easy to forget just how far it's come.
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Posted on: 2010/7/18 20:19:57
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however it is not true that i've ported it just compiling it since there are a lot of patches in the trunk that are mine.. but that's it.. the life goes on..
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Posted on: 2010/7/18 21:25:49
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@TSK
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Could you implement GETDLNAME, GETDLSIZE (Get download target name, get download size) and STOPDL (stop download) arexx commands so maybe external download managers could work that way ?
While that would be useful, we need an integrated download manager. An external download manager is unlikely to be able to download files that require you to log in to the website first.
If you're serious about implementing a download manager, I recommend checking out the source-code. The Amiga OS 4 port is in the main OWB repository, and anyone can access it.
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Quote:however it is not true that i've ported it just compiling it since there are a lot of patches in the trunk that are mine.. but that's it.. the life goes on..
It seems that a lot of people don't realize that there's no such thing as "the OWB GUI," and that each platform has to provide its own code for the GUI and platform specific stuff. Really, OWB is more of a library that can be used to build a browser as opposed to a fully featured browser like Firefox.
Also, your initial port seems like ancient history now, so its easy to forget (or not know at all, for newcomers).
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Posted on: 2010/7/18 22:12:31
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@Hans
I'm trying to compile OWB, so far I have compiled 5%, I can get every thing working so commented out a few lines her and there, I hope to get download manager working.
The source code in the svn tucnk looks old, does jurge not synchronize?
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Posted on: 2010/7/19 0:09:03
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In support of Joerg, I want to say that I have used OWB since it first came out, through most of the upgrades to OWB 3.29. Of course there have been some issues along the way, but all in all, I support his efforts. I am currently using OWB 3.29.
As for any further upgrades or improvements to OWB, I am not a programmer or a developer so I cannot help there. As a user, I can speak with feedback and donations.
I have used IBrowse, AWeb APL Lite, OWB, NetSurf and Timberwolf Alpha 1 release. In my humble opinion, Timberwolf needs alot more work before it will replace any of the others. Currently, I use OWB 3.29 and NetSurf 2.5 as my main web browsers.
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Posted on: 2010/7/19 2:09:42
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@Joerg
I reply here as old thread was locked 
First of all that discussion wasn't born to blame anyone, we talked about software not people but I have to say sorry if that offending Joerg or anyone here, this wasn't my intention really ...
Quote:- I implemented support for downloads myself in the AmigaOS 4.x OWB, before the download code from the AROS author was added to the OWB SVN.
Ok, so i'm wrong here too, sorry again, it seems I was bad informed here ...
Quote:Since most people seem to think the AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB it's useless crap I guess I wont waste my time on it any more.
Reading this site it seems the opposite, most people seems appreciate ... but to be clear I never say that your software is "crap" or somethings similar, I just say that current release doesn't cover my need, maybe I be a bit rude but this doesn't change the concept, then I asked if someone can be able to port another one, that's it ... by the way continuing discussion is a non sense, hopefully you can change idea about dropping the OWB support, this was not my intention at all ...
Peace, if you accept ...
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Posted on: 2010/7/19 5:57:21
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@Antique
The best way to support Joerg would have been to NOT restart the locked thread, by not quoting the old one . IMHO this thread should be locked, and a new one started that is more clearly "how we help joerg" not "and this is what people were whining about" (that allows people to re-start the locked-thread issues).
BTW, is the source code to OS4's port of OWB fully available? If yes, then anyone else can theoretically look at adding stuff.
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Posted on: 2010/7/19 8:47:17
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@ChrisH
yes of course..
except that you must patch all CMakeFiles since joerg doesn't patch them.
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