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Re: CPU Module
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Not too shy to talk


@dwolfman

My old 7455 ran at 933mhz all the time. As soon as I got the A1 I changed the core voltage to make it run more stable and added a heavy fan with a support bracket to keep it cool. It ran at about 45c to 50c given the vagaries of the temperature display on the tower. I think a weak point in the module design is siting mounting holes so close to the capacitors. As for the cpu itself I agree the design and manufacture are not in question but more the choice of cpu in particular with regard to cooling properties at normal running speeds should not have been the 7455.( in hindsight of course.)( and with the benefit of practical results with the 7457 running at a cool 35c and therefore not requiring such a humongous cooling system.)

A1XEG4 PPC 7457 1.3GHz
A-Eon X5000
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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
Amigans Defender
Amigans Defender


@All

Well, after having read the absurd claims and counter claims being made by some people elsewhere on this subject, I shall await until we see some learned posts from our resident intellectuals, Mitch and GregS before I make up my mind what's going on

Mikey C

No cause is lost if there is but one fool left to fight for it.
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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
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@Atheist

None of which effects the matter of OWNERSHIP. As uncomfortable as some might find that to be, it IS a rather important part of the puzzle.

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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


Quote:
ssolie wrote:

This whole thing just gets weirder and dirtier. Best to make another bowl of popcorn.

Hi ssolie,

I skimmed this at first, and thought you said "bowel".


I stand behind Hyperion winning the/any lawsuit, no matter what they pursue.

I _agree_ that Amiga Inc. went out on a limb and purchased Amiga IP for anywhere from 3 to 5 million dollars and DOES deserve compensation for that investment and profits, even, however, all their idiocy has led to stagnation of AOS4.x+ and NEAR DEATH too!!!

This has all gotten out of control, and I don't know who to point fingers at, as there are bigger things behind all of the failures..... (I won't go into that.)

All three companies involved (Hyperion Entertainment, Eyetech, and Amiga Inc. WA) have had awful trials and tribulations befall them.

I only attribute blame of fault to Amiga Inc. though.


They had money, and flittered it away into oblivion....
They ALMOST pursued two unacceptable paths (Linux and Linux), AOS _IS_ and OS....
Then they sat back and kept saying "someone else is working on it".

FINE!

Well, WHERE'S the "partnership" when all is said and done?

Amiga Inc (Del) tried to grab the "whole bowl of wax" with NOTHING left for the peple that PRODUCED something very, very special..... then _refused_ to maintain a partnership relation.

Well, boohoo for them, I hope nothing goes to them.... they had their chance.

They STILL pretty much refuse to tell us what the future in their eyes IS!

Except for what looks pretty much like "fake lies" of HW from ACK. I'm not calling ACK a liar, but that Amiga Inc. (is lying) REALLY intends to fund the building of NEW HW.


Amiga Inc (Del), LICENSE AOS4.x from Hyperion Entertainment for your dual G5 PA Semi MB!!!!!!!!

Support Amiga Fantasy cases!!!
How to program: 1. Start with lots and lots of 0's. 10. Add 1's, liberally.
"Details for OS 5 will be made public in the fourth quarter of 2007, ..." - Bill McEwen
Whoah!!! He spoke, a bit late.
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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
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@JeffShepherd

Itec OWNS Amiga, Inc.

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Re: CPU Module
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@Swisso

My 7455 933MHz chip running at 1.0 GHz has been running like that for at least two years now. Before that it ran at Eyetech's original 800 MHz speed.

No problems with my system, but that is because I replaced my heatsink with a Zalman northbridge cooler and a homemade duct with an 80 mm fan in just a few months aftr I got the A1 (before even trying to overclock it). My CPUDocky is showing 131?F right now (about 55?C if I did my math right), and the Silverstone temp monitor in my top 5.25" drive bay is showing 120?F (the probe is measuring the temp of the heatsink above the CPU core, probe stuck between the fins with the tip touching the bottom of the heatsink). Note my CPUDocky is not calibrated, so this temp is likely off a bit. However, since the measured temp with an external probe is only a few degrees cooler on the fin side of the heatsink, I'm thinking the CPU's internal temp circuit is working fairly close to what it should be.

I suppose I could get it to run cooler, but this runs nearly silent. Much better than with the crappy fan/heatsink that Eyetech put on it originally.

Anyway, I mainly wanted to point out that I do not believe the reliability issue is the SPU itself, but likely the assembly of the CPU module and/or other parts on it. These PowerPC CPUs are originally designed for embedded operation, usually in environments that are not necessarily computer-friendly. I would have to say that Motorola/Freescale/IBM have likely "over-engineered" the CPU a bit so that they would work more reliably in those embedded environments.

And we know that Eyetech did not use the correct reference documentation for the CPU they actually used on most G4 setups, as they used an inadequate cooling solution and did not se the voltage to the correct one for the CPU. The 933 MHz 7455 that I have, along with many others, needed 1.79 volts, no the 1.6 they shipped it with, so I'm surprised any of them worked at all!

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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


@ssolie

Sounds to me like the men in grey are trying to bog down the case with legalese therefore "busting" Hyperions coffers.

I suspected they would try "outfunding" Hyperion.

Bill Buck was successful using this very tactic.

I wonder if the judge is reading any of the comments on the Amiga forums ?

Are we nearly there yet ?
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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
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@ssolie

What is the relationship between Itec and Amiga Inc?

This could work in Hyperions favour as Itec's claim will surely undermind Amiga Incs position.

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Re: BBC catch-up service may be locked to Microsoft
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@Chris

The BBC said a while ago that other platforms would be supported. In actual fact I saw recently a list of programs on the BBC website for other platforms which include Amiga.

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Re: Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
Amigans Defender
Amigans Defender


This whole thing just gets weirder and dirtier. Best to make another bowl of popcorn.

ExecSG Team Lead
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Itec attempts to grab OS4 while Hyperion attempts to add them to lawsuit
Amigans Defender
Amigans Defender


You can find all the court docs on Justia.

It seems Itec LLC tried to buy OS4 for $25k on June 20, 2007 from Hyperion. Hyperion then responded by trying to pull Itec into the ongoing lawsuit between Amiga Inc. and Hyperion.

ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Milkytracker
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@sinisrus

what news for os4.0 version of milky tracker ?

I not use correctly is bugy bugy :'-(

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Re: BBC catch-up service may be locked to Microsoft
Amigans Defender
Amigans Defender


Just to update this...

Quote:
The BBC has been threatened with a complaint to the European Commission (EC) over its contoversial use of Microsoft technology in its upcoming iPlayer.

Advocacy group the Open Source Consortium (OSC) has attacked the online video service as anti-competitive as it will only initially work on Windows-based computers.


http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blo ... r-faces-ec-challenge.html

Better article: http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?id=2520


Edited by Chris on 2007/6/27 22:08:39
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Re: CPU Module
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Not too shy to talk


@TMTisFree

I was without my A1 from 8th August2005 to 25th March 2007. The only reason I know that is from my D-Net history.

A1XEG4 PPC 7457 1.3GHz
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Re: CPU Module
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Not too shy to talk


@TMTisFree

Try dropping the speed of the cpu. I had to set mine quite low to start with (about 266mhz before my A1 kicked in) Have you made sure that the voltage dipswitches on the motherboard are set to all off? I.E. the lowest setting possible 1.34Volts.

A1XEG4 PPC 7457 1.3GHz
A-Eon X5000
CDTV!!
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Re: CPU Module
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@TSK & ikir

Battery is new and yes I tried resetting both the battery and the Radeon.

ACube suggested me to check the serial output, but I do not currently have a null modem cable. Will try to find one tomorrow.

Bye,
TMTisFree

"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." (Napol?on Bonaparte)
"I would love to change the world, but they won?t give me the source code." (Unknown)
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Re: CPU Module
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@TMTisFree

Maybe battery is dead only !?

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Re: CPU Module
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@TMTisFree
Have you tried to disconnect gfx card and the reconnect it? have you tried to reset uboot by removing the battery?

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Re: CPU Module
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@Swisso

Arrrgh, it seems the CPU module is DOA. No UBoot display at all. Infos sent to ACube, waiting for instructions.

I moved home in november 2006 and discover the CPU module was destroyed by carrier one week before AOS4 Final was released, so half a year without A1.

Bye,
TMTisFree

"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." (Napol?on Bonaparte)
"I would love to change the world, but they won?t give me the source code." (Unknown)
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Re: AmigaOne SCSI
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@sg2

Quote:

sg2 wrote:
@agafaster

Ok, i've indeed had some sleep.

Sorry if I misinterpreded your words. English not being my native language, I thought you were saying "your support sucks".

Regards,
--
St?phane



no worries !
besides, English is my native language, and I 'get the wrong end of the stick' all the time.
I work in IT support, so I know the excrement that can get dished out, and wouldnt dream of dishing it out meself, especially when the work was done off your own bat, and effectively for fun.

apologies if I'm being too idiomatic here btw!


Edited by agafaster on 2007/6/27 13:18:21
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