@Mitch
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I'm just glad this standoff is finally coming to an end. Either kill off OS4 or let it live but end this insane standoff. It has been going on for years with both sides playing dumb to the Amiga community.

The Amiga OS 4.0 developers have done an amazing job and poured countless free hours into their creation only to see it being torn apart by greedy corporations with clearly incompetent management teams. Sigh.

IMHO of course.

@BillE

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There is a need to be fair here and recognize that Hyperion and Eyetech wouldn't have been able to do that "something" if it wasn't for Amiga Inc.

Just received the package around 11:30, less than 24 hours to get from Italy to South Wales.





I'm supposed to be going out for beers this afternoon so I might postpone installation of the CPU until tomorrow. At the risk of being like Helgis I'll keep you posted.

@Mikey_C

Out of court settlement and arbitration probably will not be on the agenda until both sides show all their guns.

Hyperion have to counter sue at this point. To tell the truth I don't know what this means in terms of US court procedure, all I do know that usually this means both sides take on something of an equal footing in court, if the cases are consolidated which should follow.

Basically it should mean that a court remedy will not decide that simply X has not got a strong case, but Y should get something for its case.

Otherwise if Hyperion is purely on defence, they might win, but not necessarily win what they are after. Counter suing should mean both sides claims come into a single court case.

A preliminary injunction, which Amiga was denied, is a safety/pressure measure, it is usual practice and nobody should read much in to it (it is like a ambit claim, before the real battle, an attempt to get all you want the easy way).

The next step if the court battle goes on is evidential, at which point both sides will get a precise understanding of the opposite case and a real measure of the strength of their own.

At that point who is behind AI should surface, along with many other things, on both sides.

I don't know how discovery works in the US, but basically if it follows the norms anything that is at issue (such as developers contracts, company transfers, audit material etc.,.) may have to be surrendered.

All a dreadful waste of time to my mind.

However, the point where out of court settle is seen as the best solution, is now as the court proceeding head towards mutual discovery, and tabling of evidence.

The problem is that it is also a time when one side might well discover it has a stronger case than it anticipated and goes for broke in court - I believe at this time that the current stock of documents available are not much to make a judgement upon.

A good legal team might well use a preliminary injunction as a means of revealing little about itself, but fishing out some things about the opposition in order to better prepare its main strategy.

In effect, if they are ultra sharp, they have told Hyperion only what they want them to know and made them reveal things that help strengthen their case.

These things are horribly complex and full of tricks.

Alternatively what we may be looking is two companies without good documentation, or particularly strong cases. If AI is slightly behind at this point, Hyperion is only slightly ahead - in either pair of shoes I would be looking for out-of-court resolution.

@afxgroup

Done

doesn't work..

thx!

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Well, then I guess a "WELL DONE, BEAN!" is in order

saimo

@Mitch

You know, I can't see Amiga inc and Hyperion settling out of court.

I get the feeling that Hyperion would probably be willing to reach an out of court settlement. However I have a funny feeling that Amiga inc won't settle for anything less. I fear that whilst Bill McEwen may be willing to, the investors want it all.

Personally, I think Amiga inc are on very shakey ground. You can't transfer assets AND still shake off all your debts/obligations.

As I understand it, if Amiga Washington, claim to be Amiga Delaware, it opens up a road for Genesi and Bolton Peck to come back at them.

@thread

Now thats news i like

Thanks for the summary to all

@Rob

Great to hear.
Take a few weeks off, believe me, you'll need it, you'll not
be able to stand up that chair again

@BOTX

Welcome to amigans.net

Have fun, ask questions, learn to live like a true Amigan...



and for goodness sake, sell this PeeCee laptop before the
staff finds out

@Needle

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Rather often lately

@acefnq

Looks awesome, wanna have

@all


thank you so much, this was really helpfull!
I just made a search on ebay and found some controllers.

I already have cables and 68 to 50 pins adapters from the old A4000 times. So in a few day's I'll be trying if ScanQuix5 and fxScan3 work properly under OS4.
Wasn't there a more recent version of fxScan? Maybe it's worth upgrading.


edit: deleted some smilies..

I think that the court case has taken an unpleasant turn. I understand Hyperion has no choice.

The best we can hope for is that AmigaOS4.0 comes out of this mess and can be used on any PPC hardware.

Maybe GregS was right when he said they are both holding back.

The Party Pack fiasco won't play well with a Jury neither.

@Paul

I have mine from a german ebay-seller. Look at
http://search.ebay.ch/search/search.d ... satitle=53C810&category0=

Regards
Toni

@FuZion

I hope Mason comes out with some brilliant designs to highlight some of those features.
It would also be great if Ken L. could get his hands on OS4 and apply his tallent in areas like this.

@Toni

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Not fair! Everytime I've looked on US eBay I only found cards with the Symbios chip sets for $160 or so. Basically, all I want is to hook up my scanner, too. Not worth it at $160.

Paul

@BillE

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Yup. I'm still able to use an Amiga because of them.

But Jeff had a good point about Bill McEwen going bankrupt and going through some other garbage with the "kommunity", too.

I wouldn't feel devastated if AInc were out of the picture. But if everything we have so far with OS4 is lost and Hyperion disappears, there's nothing left at all to bother with anymore.

Paul

@TSK

Anything you want your skin to do, you can define it. Fixed sizes, stretchable, only horizontally, only vertically, set a minimum size, set a maximun size, have text scrolling or not, use alpha channels or not, buttons can have a hover state, a pressed state or an 'on' state. You can set a titlebar area & have alternate colours if the window is active or not... I think I'll shut it for now before Paul hits me

FuZion.