@sundown

DonF is shown as being the latest... But there are 502 members this morning...

<b>IF</b> the list on the right of the home page is refreshed in "real-time" then JamieKrueger is in theory the # 500... But are these stats really refreshed automatically when a new member join ?

Jerry

@AJS

I would say that DonF was #500. I was on the site when it read 500 members & Don was the lastest (date wise) to sign up, but I would imagine the site logs would have to be looked at anyway.

@goody
That looks great, hope someone can look at it for AOS4.

ace

@Chris

Good work!

I've already used it on the documentation for my dvdauthor port.

@acefnq

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@Rogue

i tried to compile cmake a while ago. i think it was paragui that used it in it's latest version. i think i managed to get it 80/90% compiled, and then came some platform specific code, and I was clueless. not meaning that it a tough port though. :) i'd like to see it ported, and scons too.
it would be nice if they would become part of the SDK.

@spotUP
I'll have to load on a pc and have a look.

ace

@spotUP

Thanks

@Chris

a job well done! this is how it should be done! :)

@acefnq

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@GregS

Forgive me for keep harping on about domestic servers.

In despair I hot the internet, hoping to find a small OS and a passively cooled board to set up my domestic server.

Now there is probably something out there, but I did not find it, and what I did find I would not know how to go about it.

But with SAM OS4 (even a cut down version) and REBOL or LAU, I could get that working. Plus with its on board graphics, and at least on good fast PCI port, it is more than enough

A domestic server has to be passively cooled, and run 24/7 with as little power as possible.

A fan seems a simple thing, but it is a 50 cent technology capable of bringing a whole system down. Domestic servers should be started and largely forgotten, they will never be in ideal conditions ( a good box design with smart chimneys, that separates out the heat sources, simple air-filters and creates a steady draft - is a good idea).

@spotUP

I probably wouldn't have even found it if you hadn't ported it initially. It's structured in a way which makes it incredibly easy to add new output formats, so it didn't take very long to do this.

There may be a few bugs, I know of one but it's only likely to be a problem if the output is subsequently run through GuideML (a somewhat convoluted way of generating HTML from man pages), oh and there's the spaces that occur at the start of the file sometimes, which appears to be a bug elsewhere in rman, but it's easy enough to load the file into Notepad and delete them.

I've submitted the new code to the original author, so there might be an official 3.3 release with AmigaGuide support eventually, if the email address is still monitored.

Chris

@ChrisH

I want to tread carefully for a number of reasons.

I assumed in the beginning AI saw OS4 as a goodwill gift product, a sweetie thrown to the community. Hence the contracts were flimsy, and the improvements asked for were small, though AI did want its IP back.

I also assume that the problem with TAO was not that it didn't work well, but that it was designed too well as a hosted device - drivers would have been a monumental task, and would have effectively meant more LINUX kernel type approaches (YUK!!).

Then as it turns out OS4 becomes better, the abstraction layers, the small foot print, the speed, and the real bonus of quick booting and powering-off. Roadshow and any number of small and big features, make OS4 as a full desktop substantial, but as a cut down underlying OS, something else again.

Now AI wants it back big time, I would guess almost by accident it becomes exactly what they need. This would also make sense of Amiga India.

Hyperion, wants more for their work, and we get a Mexican stand-off.

I might be reading the whole situation wrongly, clearly there is a lot of history and past frictions.

I believe a lot could be fixed with a good licensing arrangement.

If I am right and Amiga Inc is looking at a stripped down easily ported OS4 "kernel" to host OS-Anywhere, then it makes sense that they want all the source code.

What I would suggest sounds strange.

OS-Anywhere licences for SAM but not for OS4. It becomes the embedded/ server version.

OS4 Licenses for ACK, it becomes the desktop version.

Hyperion-Acube become world wide distributors of OS4 and continues development - especially for the PS3.

OS5-Anywhere, also hosts on OS4, but as a third party add-on sold through Amiga Inc.

AI holds the complete IP for OS4, but the development and distribution of only OS5-Anywhere. enabling it to concentrate on small devices, embedded, and domestic servers, while Hyperion-Acube concentrate on full desktop systems re ACK/TRIOKA.

The cross interests of SAM and ACK compliment each other.

It will probably never happen, but Mexican stand-offs are usually cured by finding another approach rather than trying to win the unwinable and both going down.

@Chris

Wow! I'm glad that my port got used.
This is exactly what i wanted when i went looking for rman in the first place! Great job Chris! I'll take a look at your app now!

I don't want to see any more ports with non-Amiga-like documentation.

I've released an update to PolyglotMan (rman) which can output AmigaGuide files given a UNIX man page.

Thanks to Spot for the original port of rman that I added this to.

So, no more HTML or plain text docs with ported software please

http://aminet.net/package/text/misc/rman-aguide
http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... ity/text/convert/rman.lha

@acefnq

i doubt any work is being done on updating them.
i noticed that the new versions was released, any new cool feats?
would it be worthwhile to update them?

@AJS
I suspect 500 will be a "James Bond" character. he will pop up when least expected and sort things.

ace

@acefnq

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@Mikey_C
I see it is at 501 now, who was the new member, so we can suitably interogate, I ...... mean welcome them!

ace

@Mikey_C
Anarchist!

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