@tonyw
Gday tony nicely answered clears a few things up for some of the questions i have heard lately

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You know a lot more than me, then.

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Never got any mail from you. Who did you send them to ?

Besides, AmigaOS4 for classic isn't a "project" in the sense that it's a community effort. It's a commercially developed OS.

@sister_Rita
I too am waiting for OS4 for my PPC1200 actually its my 10 year olds now
i have my A1 but none the less its going to be an OS4 machine too

Seems like you have fogging issues on the polygons...

What graphics card are you using? And where do you get the alignment exceptions, in MiniGL, in your code, or in Warp3D?

I don't think anyone answered your original question - which was "why can't you use an emulator to run OS4?"

Contrary to popular opinion, OS4 does not run "on top of" the U-Boot ROM like a BIOS. U-Boot does only what its name suggests - boots the system. By the time you see the "modules loaded, now launching Kickstart" message, U-Boot has been discarded and plays no further part in the boot process.

However, the "dongle code" is stored in the U-Boot ROM and is checked to make sure the OS is running on an A1 and not some other hardware.

Also, all the device drivers (disk drivers, Ethernet, USB, floppy etc) are hard-coded for the addresses of the hardware interfaces in the AmigaOne. All the drivers would have to be re-written for the target platform - or provided with a wrapper for the target platform's own drivers.

So although you could probably emulate the instruction set of the PPC on an x86 (or use the PPC of another platform), there are a lot of hard-coded references to the AmigaOne hardware within the OS, and you would have to find a way around them.

@Fransexy

You hit the nail on the head. So much work has gone into throwing in the "bells and whistles" into an operating system that it's basic functions have been ignored. I can't look at any of the three major ones (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux desktop distros) and see any sort of effort to get back into the basics and allow the OS to become transparent instead of getting in the way of the user. It's like the OSes try to be everything for everyone, and I think we all know how that turns out...a jack of all trades but a master of none. I think that AOS goes a long way towards being a transparent experience just from its simplicity and efficiency, and that efforts to make it more "modern" shouldn't lose sight of this.

I also find this to be one of the charms of delving into AOS 3.0, which is what I have on my A1200 at the moment. Sure, there are more modern functions that I do miss while playing aroudn on it, but even then most other OSes didn't have them at that point in time either.

Okey lets take a step back and take a deep breath here.

@ rigardie_gr

I'm sure Hyperion has enough betatesters at this point and does not need any more. And I'm sure there's lots of people who want to get their hands on os4 for classic ppc machines, but not everyone can get it just yet. It's a waiting game for all these people, and there's not much that can be done about it.

so what?

you think you can jump in, without the NDA?
Besides if youre not officially listed at Hyperion as betatester how would you know whom to send bugreports to?

Accept it, you'll have to wait with all of us for the release...

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And that is why today OS fails to be a great experience anymore.A lot of services and extras that i never use slowdowning my computer.I prefer a basic system and the services loaded when needed and not at startup.

I think that people and the industry has forgotten what an operating system is, and confusing operating system and applications in one.An operating system is an interface that interact between the hardware and you,nothing more nothing less, it must be simple and clean and the functions and services must be provided by the applications and not by the OS, that is not its function (not wouldn?t have to be).But the world insist in integrate more and more in the OSs making them more and more slow, bloated and unresponsible making them (ironically) more "unoperating"

yes after 70 years!! but i know many of the betatesters are not participate any more on project!!

@Mitch

Forgive Mikey_C's tone, I think he's just too used to having to deal with the flame wars over on the other sites and misunderstood what you're getting at.

What you're proposing is probably a good idea. I'm still a noob with Amigas in general and haven't even touched OS4, so I have no clue as to what the online security situation currently is. However, if it's something that really hasn't been looked into by others in-depth, recognizing the current shortcomings is definitely the first step in getting them fixed.

@Mitch
your welcome
@Orgin
even better the direct link

@Mitch

Tell you what, lets do something positive, you write an article/guide on how to make Amiga OS4 more secure using AMISSL v1, v2 & 3 and I'll make sure its published on this site and you are given full credit for it.

Lets be constructive, not destructive.

@mitch

Memory module list

@ rigardie_gr
unfortunately only Hyperion can give you what you want
so if they don't need any more beta testers you'll have to wait for its release

Thank you for being informative, friendly and helpful.

@Mitch
look @ intuitionbase and there is a list of memory modules that work in the A1 then order one of those :)

Hehe run Widows. That sounds about right for Windows!

But someone said ( other than me ) earlier that it might be possible to do something nasty through IBrowse - well it is. The JavaScript implementation in AWEB hangs on some sites too so it must be possible to attack that way.

But putting browsers to one side, just simple advice like:

1. Don't run a web server on your Amiga
2. Don't allow access to TCP: on your Amiga
3. etc etc.

Plus how much security testing has gone into the development of the TCP implementation on the Amiga, and any daemons. Just because YOU don't use some of these things doesn't mean there aren't some pretty clueless people out there who do.

For their sakes we should not be so arrogant and make some advice freely available. That advice has to come from the collective so I am asking people to be constructive about it and share experiences.

If that is considered "bitching and whining" by the moderators then lock the thread and throw me off. If not, pitch in with advice.

Certainly I'd never use SAMBA online so my advice would be there - if you don't use a firewall, make sure you turn off SAMBA first.

@Mitch

Oh, he's gorgeous, just look at his avatar! :)