@ rigardie_gr
unfortunately only Hyperion can give you what you want
so if they don't need any more beta testers you'll have to wait for its release

Thank you for being informative, friendly and helpful.

@Mitch
look @ intuitionbase and there is a list of memory modules that work in the A1 then order one of those :)

Hehe run Widows. That sounds about right for Windows!

But someone said ( other than me ) earlier that it might be possible to do something nasty through IBrowse - well it is. The JavaScript implementation in AWEB hangs on some sites too so it must be possible to attack that way.

But putting browsers to one side, just simple advice like:

1. Don't run a web server on your Amiga
2. Don't allow access to TCP: on your Amiga
3. etc etc.

Plus how much security testing has gone into the development of the TCP implementation on the Amiga, and any daemons. Just because YOU don't use some of these things doesn't mean there aren't some pretty clueless people out there who do.

For their sakes we should not be so arrogant and make some advice freely available. That advice has to come from the collective so I am asking people to be constructive about it and share experiences.

If that is considered "bitching and whining" by the moderators then lock the thread and throw me off. If not, pitch in with advice.

Certainly I'd never use SAMBA online so my advice would be there - if you don't use a firewall, make sure you turn off SAMBA first.

@Mitch

Oh, he's gorgeous, just look at his avatar! :)

Just because it's security through obscurity doesn't make it any less secure. Does any version of the AmigaOS natively allow for remote logins of any type, such as FTP, telnet, web hosting, etc? The more of these types of services are available (and even enabled by default), the more of a risk you'll have. I'll venture a guess and say that AOS 1.3 - 3.9 at the very least doesn't have most, if any, of these. A bigger concern would probably be browser encryption, but considering the current state of browsers, I doubt most sites you would do any online transactions with would even work correctly with them. As it stands, though, I'd say overall you're far more secure using an Amiga online than a Windows or even a current Mac.

@Mitch
my router has a firewall built in that will do me i'm never gona run widows ever so its not an issue as far as i'm concerned

Does anyone know where I can get more RAM for the AmigaONE if that is the problem?

I'm not bitching and whining. I am just saying that sticking our collective heads in the sand about the potential isn't a good idea.

I am not even mentioning virus software.

Anyone who uses a computer on the net has some basic security advice to follow. Anyone who uses AmigaOS 3.0 or 4.0 on the net has to take extra precautions even if it is just to be warned that using telnet, ftp and other similar plain text mediums for userid and password access to a server is a mistake and to download a SSH variant if available.

Any server admin worth their salt want deal with SSHv1 connections.

Look, I don't think that anyone here is aware that there are some potential risks being an AmigaOS4 user or indeed, even OS3.x

Bitching and whining about it don't help, I would wager everyone in here knows the score. I would imagine most of us here are using our amiga's behind some form of firewall so its not as if we are all stupid.

If you want, why not code a bit of anti-virus software for the amiga? or even a native firewall or something.

moaning doesn't help.

@Mitch
new hardware is around the corner so dont panic

Security through obscurity is all very well but how many of you hang around on IRC?

Well we all know that AmigaOS4 are a target for some quite hostile and disturbed people and that might include some of its users.

In a chatroom you can see the ip addresses which are connected, and go after them. Even just being able to knock people off the net might be a pain.

So as you say good advice is not to fileshare but AmigaOS4.0 I don't think has a SSH v2+ compliant implementation so either you use a lower grade ( and hackable ) SSH/SFTP or telnet/ftp which can be sniffed for passwords and userids and by using AmigaOS with these not so secure protocols can expose any server that you might own.

I guess I just think it might be sensible to acknowledge that AmigaOS might not be very secure, provide some general advice, and emphasise the need to provide a secure set of clients.

But why not?

I used to use the QL and my Sinclair QL is long gone to the QL scrapheap in the sky I bought a Q60 ( an 060 based QL with a 16 bit graphics card ) and ran SMSQ/E on that ( the QL operating system updated ) for a year or two.

Then that died.

Then I bought a QL emulator and run SMSQ/E on that from time to time. Without that I'd never be able to use it again.

You see my point? There are no plans to release a new QL, and people did think for a while that there might be a QL-PPC or a coldfusion QL but nothing.

I don't want to end up without AmigaOS4.0. So if all these other plans fall through then will someone consider either a co-operative emulator or a hostile one ( like shapeshifter ).

@MikeyC
shhhh they will here you and start on us now all you virus writers there is no OS4 or amiga

Well, at first I use no filesharing services with AmigaOS,
only password-protected FTP some times.
So no access to my files over the net.
In fact there are hardly any services at all.

Next we are so very few that even if there would be a way
to execute some code thru IBrowse for example,
we are just no target to make it worth the effort.

And last but not least, connecting to the Internet
today usually means by DSL or cable so there
is most likely a router involved which provides
basic firewall features thru NAT.
This means that only packets requested
are sent to the computer which requested them.

Nope its called security through obscurity.

@Mitch
if your A1 is freezing a lot check memory with mem tester 4.05
if it passes that check cooling etc

Ah but maybe that is because AmigaOS is so insecure you'd never find out!

Ok, i see your point, but like you say these are bundles and
you can not say that from an Amiga OS alone.

I am sure that if there would be an Internet-bundlle with
the new hardware that that would be a big step forward.
If you would look at it from a desktop perspective ofcourse.

But i see more benefit in special bundles like for example
OS4 + hardware as a basic system where you could add
extra services with inhouse or external software addons.

@Mitch
I use my A1 OS4 comp online 24/7 never had a prob yet