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noXLar

Re: AmigaOS 4 Monthly Roundup - July 2023

Posted on: 2023/8/2 11:23 #7421

Not too shy to talk

thank you for your monthly reports.. I'm always enjoy them:)

Sam460ex 2GB 120Gb SSD&1Tb HD7750 Envy24HT A-Eon Drv 2.10+Warp3D New Uboot
Apollo v4 Standalone

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smarkusg

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 11:23 #7422

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@m3x
Thanks !!! it works on my Qemu Pegasos 2

https://ibb.co/YcLcmTz

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m3x

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 11:01 #7423

Just popping in

@white

Quote:

but can it be made available to try it ?

The new driver is currently on OS4Depot uploads queue:

http://os4depot.net/download.php?file ... nmotion502_chip-53.12.lha

Max Tretene, ACube Systems Srl, Soft3

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Hans

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 10:25 #7424

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@geennaam

I just tested bboot, and booting on my system is now down to about 23 seconds. It has the added bonus that I can update the kernel modules without needing to start the emulator, upload the new files, and reboot the emulator again.

Good enough for now...

Hans

http://hdrlab.org.nz/ - Amiga OS 4 projects, programming articles and more.
https://keasigmadelta.com/ - more of my work

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Maijestro

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 9:37 #7425

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@joergQuote:

joerg wrote:@Maijestro
Looks like the "LONG" option is removed/disabled in this port (there are several AmigaOS 4.x versions, docs are included for example in http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... y/benchmark/diskspeed.lha), try
scsispeed DRIVE=peg2ide.device:0 FAST MINTIME=1 BUF1=512 BUF2=16384 BUF3=1048576 BUF4=16777216

Ok thanks now it works. Performed with kickstart nvram.config peg2ide_xfer=FFFF and peg2ide_irq=1111 Here the result:

7.Download:Scsispeed4> scsispeed DRIVE=peg2ide.device:0 FAST MINTIME=1 BUF1=512 BUF2=16384 BUF3=1048576 BUF4=16777216
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by StÈphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 54.30
Device: peg2ide.device:0

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 4193792 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 118767616 bytes/sec

Testing with a 1048576 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 442499072 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16777216 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 452984832 bytes/sec

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE

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Maijestro

Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge

Posted on: 2023/8/2 9:25 #7426

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@balatonQuote:

balaton wrote:@Maijestro
You should see the cD detected after Bus 0: not a timeout. I had that problem in the first version but later fixed it. Are you running the latest build from current Qmiga git or an old build? Maybe remove the source and clone again to make sure it's the latest version.

Ok I was not on their last build. Rebuilt and tested. The kernel is booted.

Modify with SM502 not possible then loader is not found in kickstart. I proceeded as with the Pegasos 2 installation.

Also the mounting of virtual hard disks works and is also recognized by U-Boot. I'll try something else tonight.

Edited by Maijestro on 2023/8/2 10:22:03
Edited by Maijestro on 2023/8/2 10:22:47

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE

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geennaam

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 8:55 #7427

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@Hans

FYI, my 10400F shows much better performance with a voodoo3. But then the restriction is the capabilities of the Voodoo3. So CPU emulation wise, a 10400 class system is sufficient. All we need is virtio or vfio.

The intel i5-1235u is lower power and has similar performance compared to the 1135G7. Those i5-1235u systems also start around the same price in my country.

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Hans

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 8:22 #7428

Home away from home

@geennaam

Thanks. That's the information I was looking for.

Hans

http://hdrlab.org.nz/ - Amiga OS 4 projects, programming articles and more.
https://keasigmadelta.com/ - more of my work

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thellier

Re: compositing engine technical talks

Posted on: 2023/8/2 7:51 #7429

Not too shy to talk

CompositeTags() can use Amiga's "bitmap" as output and also as input (=textures) that give it more flexibility than Warp3D/OpenGL

Also it is more simple to draw with this single function than to setup Gallium3D/Nova thant need (say) 50 functions before even draw something

CompositeTags works in hardware on all my NG machines : Sam440,Sam460,X5000

IMHO The main point of CompositeTags is to draw blits with scale/rotation/transparency/filtering = same as SDL2 or Cairo but in a single/simple function

http://aminet.net/package/dev/src/CompositePOC

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geennaam

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 7:51 #7430

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OK, my mistake. The topic of this thread seems to suggest that you already know that your 8 years old hardware isn't up for the task. The single core performance of my three years old mid range hardware is 50% faster then your hardware. And while processor emulation speed seems OK (judging from LHA unpacking speed) the overall performance is on sam440 level because the same core needs to emulate the sm501 as well.

With bboot, you have to provide a zip with kernel + kernel modules. This will bypass the slow amigaboot+hdd simulation+ffs filesystem. Hence the faster loading.

I do not know how to translate" tight budget" into a measureable value. But a 1135G7 based laptop starts at EUR 500. And in general, I would not recommend cheaper laptops due to lack of build quality.

Edited by geennaam on 2023/8/2 8:21:29

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daveyw

Re: Game Competition for July/August 2023- Breakhack !

Posted on: 2023/8/2 4:22 #7431

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I belatedly had a go at playing Breakhack. However, when I start the game the menu covers the screen. Apparently, Esc toggles it off an on, but for me it does nothing, and I am stuck with it covering the screen.

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Hans

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 2:41 #7432

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@geennaam

Quote:

A laptop with a Core-i5 1135G7 should give similar performance to my system. The raw CPU emulation speed is good. It's the gfx part that is a bit slower.

Okay. My line of questioning is trying to gauge whether the slowness is my specific hardware. The answers I'm getting tend to be generic emulation issues, whereas I'm looking into whether my system's slowness is simply the result of a slower machine, and how much of a boost upgrading would bring (money is tight, so I'm not going to upgrade on a whim).

I have upgraded to the latest release candidate. No performance change so far. I'll try bboot next. Right now, loading the kickstart modules takes about 12 seconds, which is longer than your total boot time...

Hans

http://hdrlab.org.nz/ - Amiga OS 4 projects, programming articles and more.
https://keasigmadelta.com/ - more of my work

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joerg

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/2 0:43 #7433

Just can't stay away

@Maijestro
Looks like the "LONG" option is removed/disabled in this port (there are several AmigaOS 4.x versions, docs are included for example in http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... y/benchmark/diskspeed.lha), try
scsispeed DRIVE=peg2ide.device:0 FAST MINTIME=1 BUF1=512 BUF2=16384 BUF3=1048576 BUF4=16777216

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balaton

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/1 23:53 #7434

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@joerg
It might be interesting to test these settings (with or without DMA and/or with ot without IRQ) on QEMU to see which setting could be the best. On real hardware it would be IRQ and DMA but on QEMU maybe DMA but no IRQ could be better even if it would cause the driver to busy wait. On QEMU it might not be a problem because there may be no delays as the vcpu does not run while the device completes the request and when it returns the data might be already DMA'd to the guest so it does not have to wait and can continue without interrupt but I'm not sure about that, so this should be tested to find out.

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balaton

Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge

Posted on: 2023/8/1 23:43 #7435

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@Maijestro
You should see the cD detected after Bus 0: not a timeout. I had that problem in the first version but later fixed it. Are you running the latest build from current Qmiga git or an old build? Maybe remove the source and clone again to make sure it's the latest version.

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interrogative

Re: Who is getting the A1222 Plus?

Posted on: 2023/8/1 22:29 #7436

Just popping in

I'd like to get another OS4.x machine. I'm just not excited about the A1222+ for the performance/price as well as the compatibility issues. If the devs can get Aladdin4D or Lightwave running (even if slowly running), I'd be more likely to consider it.

Sold the SAM460ex lite... waiting for money for X5000 or A1222 and OS 4.2

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Rob

Re: compositing engine technical talks

Posted on: 2023/8/1 22:16 #7437

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@kas1eQuote:

Then question arise why it didn't done for example on MorphOS, or they simply do use when need it necessary Radeon's hardware features without praising it like "engine" , and not provide 3d party users with such easy APIs ?

MorphOS has included it's own compositing engine called layers3D since 2.0, which was released a few months before OS4.1.

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Maijestro

Re: Laptop recommendations

Posted on: 2023/8/1 21:21 #7438

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@joergQuote:

scsispeed DRIVE=peg2ide.device:0 LONG FAST MINTIME=1 BUF1=512 BUF2=16384 BUF3=1048576 BUF4=16777216
(assuming unit 0 of peg2ide.device is an emulated HD and not an emulated CD/DVD drive)
It's an ancient read-only benchmark tool from 1989, but should still be usable with the arguments above, and there should be no difference between reads and writes.

I tried to run a read and write benchmark with "scsispeed" according to your instructions, please see my screenshot for the result. If you can't read it, I can post it again. ide:0 corresponds to my virtual HD from which AmigaOs4.1 is also booted.

Since there is no readme for "scsispeed4" I don't know how to use it.

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE

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MartinW

Re: Libraries: GLEW / GLFW

Posted on: 2023/8/1 21:10 #7439

Not too shy to talk

[edit] Never mind. I've built it. I don't have a lot of confidence it's built correctly given some of the warnings it spat out along the way but time will tell.

Edited by MartinW on 2023/8/2 1:31:45

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

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Maijestro

Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge

Posted on: 2023/8/1 20:58 #7440

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@balaton

Quote:

balaton wrote:@Hypex
It would be more interesting to test with AmigaOS which should be possible using SM502 driver the same way as with pegasos2 but I don't have that AmigaOS version so waiting for somebody to do this.

Today my AmigaOneXe AmigaOs4.1 version arrived a boot was not possible maybe I forgot to set something right in the U-Boot menu. Tested with:

qemu-system-ppc -M amigaone -L /Users/qemu/pc-bios -device VGA,romfile=/Users/qemu/pc-bios/VGABIOS-lgpl-latest.bin -cdrom /Users/Downloads/AmigaOneInstallCD-53.54.iso -m 1024 -display cocoa -serial stdio -d unimp,guest_errors

Bus 0: is scanned more does not happen.

In the U-Boot menu Amiga Boot Option I set Boot Device 1 :Onboard VIA IDE CDROM and tried to boot.

You can see the result on the screenshot.

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE

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