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Re: First user's report of new Intel HD Audio (Azalia) driver by geennaam
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@MartinW

The Enhancer hdaudio driver can only handle the X1000 onboard hdaudio solution.

I had my reasons to get my drivers removed from os4depot. I am looking at a different way to distribute them. But I am not in a hurry.

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@kas1e

I've filed a bug report two years ago. Given the RadeonRX.chip.debug output, it was determined that it was the sam440 u-boot x86 emulator shortcoming and that Hans couldn't do anything about it on driver side.

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Re: Game Competition for July 2023- Breakhack !
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I am on the Vacation and there is no my x5000, so no game for my this month...lucky you :D

Amiga x5000 ı o2o ı 4GB RAM ı RadeonRX580 | SBlaster Audigy Fx - AmigaOS4.1 FInal Edition

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@joergQuote:
joerg wrote:@Maijestro
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Since no Amiga NG x5000 comes into question for me (too expensive)
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I've also played with the idea to buy the new MacStudio with M2 Max or M2 Ultra, on such a hardware AmigaOs4.1 would probably be even faster as it already is.
Doesn't make sense if you want to use it mainly for AmigaOS 4.1 emulation, the M2 Max costs about as much as a X5000, the M2 Ultra twice as much.


But it makes sense, the MacStudio, I use mainly for working with MacOs it is my main system I use. AmigaOs4.1 is currently used as a 2 system.

I also don't have room for additional hardware, so I went for something very powerful that takes up as little space as possible. I don't like the clunky computers.

I already had an AmigaOneXE 20 years ago, but for the fact that I boot AmigaOs4.1 only 2-3 times a day, this space would be wasted for me and it would be a pity for the hardware that then just stands around and is not used.

2 systems on one machine would be perfect, of course. AmigaOs4.1 did not run much better on real hardware than under Qemu, and I am a bit suspicious if things have improved. At that time AmigaOs4 was still pre-release.

The NG Amiga x5000 was released in 2016 has 2 cores, which unfortunately is not supported by the AmigaOs4.1 kernel until today. For God's sake I don't want to talk bad, but the further development of AmigaOs4.1 is unfortunately very slow, as much as I love this system otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with it again after years.

I do not want to go into this topic any further either. AmigaOs4.1 is a great system for me and with a x 5000 you will of course have much more fun than with Qemu and AmigaOs4.1.


Edited by Maijestro on 2023/7/26 18:58:20
Edited by Maijestro on 2023/7/26 19:02:58
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro
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Since no Amiga NG x5000 comes into question for me (too expensive)
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I've also played with the idea to buy the new MacStudio with M2 Max or M2 Ultra, on such a hardware AmigaOs4.1 would probably be even faster as it already is.
Doesn't make sense if you want to use it mainly for AmigaOS 4.1 emulation, the M2 Max costs about as much as a X5000, the M2 Ultra twice as much.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@MartinW

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MartinW wrote:@Maijestro

Sure, at the moment we don't know for sure on GPU passthrough if the register addresses (I think that's what we're talking about, I know which addresses I mean in the output / code anyway) should be left undefined as they appear to be on real Pegasos2, whether the IRQ's should be mapped when they are unassigned by firmware and so on.

I could keep coming back here, posting log output and then Balaton can make a minor change with "try this", or I could try the changes myself first. If I understand where to make the change of course. It doesn't matter if I do it exactly how Balaton would do it, or not, at least then I can say "well, I tried x and y but it didn't help, here are the logs". Etc.

Unless I'm wrong and we've exhausted all options but I don't think that is the case. I also have access to HD5450, RX550 and RX580.

One thing I will say is that I've switched to a different PC and the PCIe slots are a bit blocked by the CPU cooler so I'm a bit limited now. "New" (actually older) PC is Intel 6700K based but actually, that has a faster single core frequency than my Ryzen system so it's better for Qemu really. The IOMMU isolation is not as good however and I think it might be causing me problems.


I keep my fingers crossed that they get it running decently.

Since no Amiga NG x5000 comes into question for me (too expensive) and for that AmigaOs4.1 is still too limited at the moment, I would prefer such a solution on current PC hardware.

Otherwise I'm waiting for a Qemu Pegasos 2 GFX driver for the emulated GFX, because I've also played with the idea to buy the new MacStudio with M2 Max or M2 Ultra, on such a hardware AmigaOs4.1 would probably be even faster as it already is.

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE
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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@kas1eQuote:

Maybe you remember how it not work exactly ? Wasnt seen by os4 kernel, so ranger and co fail to see it, or, wasnt seen by firmware ? Or were seen by firmware, and seen by os4 kernel, but driver wasnt working correctly ?


Here is simple description how 8112 not works for me.

Quote:

Issues with driver can be sorted, but for that, kernel should see the hardware in bridge, and so radeonhd driver will try to inits at all. Currently peg2 kernel even didnt know about card in bridge, while OF know about, so RadeonHD driver didnt starts at all


That's weird. I thought that the OS is not interested in what is in front or behind the bridge. I thought that OS simply access all cards with PCI addresses which are initialized by firmware.
But I am not kernel programmer, so I can be wrong

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

Sure, at the moment we don't know for sure on GPU passthrough if the register addresses (I think that's what we're talking about, I know which addresses I mean in the output / code anyway) should be left undefined as they appear to be on real Pegasos2, whether the IRQ's should be mapped when they are unassigned by firmware and so on.

I could keep coming back here, posting log output and then Balaton can make a minor change with "try this", or I could try the changes myself first. If I understand where to make the change of course. It doesn't matter if I do it exactly how Balaton would do it, or not, at least then I can say "well, I tried x and y but it didn't help, here are the logs". Etc.

Unless I'm wrong and we've exhausted all options but I don't think that is the case. I also have access to HD5450, RX550 and RX580.

One thing I will say is that I've switched to a different PC and the PCIe slots are a bit blocked by the CPU cooler so I'm a bit limited now. "New" (actually older) PC is Intel 6700K based but actually, that has a faster single core frequency than my Ryzen system so it's better for Qemu really. The IOMMU isolation is not as good however and I think it might be causing me problems.


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Re: Game Competition for July 2023- Breakhack !
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here's my latest hi score:
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finally found a fairy too but she didn't have that much cash to hand out this time

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@MartinWQuote:

The whole reason I'm even building it at all is so that I can at least attempt to try different things out when things don't work. Hopefully that's helpful!


I don't understand what this should be good for, but everything that brings Qemu and AmigaOs4.1 further in development should be good in my opinion.

Maybe you can give some details what exactly you have in mind to understand what it can be useful for.

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@sailor
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Hans made some driver optimalizations for 8112 bridge, but for me this bridge not worked.

Maybe you remember how it not work exactly ? Wasnt seen by os4 kernel, so ranger and co fail to see it, or, wasnt seen by firmware ? Or were seen by firmware, and seen by os4 kernel, but driver wasnt working correctly ?

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@sailor
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Pegasos I don't know yet. Without correct recognition by firmware Operating System has no chance to operate the card.


As you can see in previous post : pegasos2 firmware did recognize and pci bridge and radeonhd card in : both video and audio part (see the post on previous page).

The problem now, its a kernel for pegasos2, which see only bridge and then nothing happens.

@sailor,geennaam
Issues with driver can be sorted, but for that, kernel should see the hardware in bridge, and so radeonhd driver will try to inits at all. Currently peg2 kernel even didnt know about card in bridge, while OF know about, so RadeonHD driver didnt starts at all

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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I managed to build bboot on OS4 last night (in Qemu on my MacBook). I had 3 issues with the code compiling but they were all sovled in the end. I don't know if it's worth listing them because I doubt many people are likely to be building it on OS4. Just try as I might I could not easily get a cross-compiler set up.

The whole reason I'm even building it at all is so that I can at least attempt to try different things out when things don't work. Hopefully that's helpful!

Unfortunately my time continues to be limited this week and there will be no time at all soon due to vacation. But I should be good for tonight to at least check that the bboot that I built runs.


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Re: Is this a glitch or is it normal?
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@msteed

I can confirm that I still see the issue with EH2 and RadeonRX 560 too.
It's most common in the RDesktopGUI's title bar, but I see it occasionally on Odysseys title bar too.

It doesn't stick on screen shot though! Might be worth mentioning.

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@geennaam
I checked old logs and you are right - firmware recognized Polaris card ( my was RX460 ) and RadeonRX output was this:

RadeonRX (6): <rxEarlyInitRadeonRX (6): add ip block number 0 <vi_commonRadeonRX (6): add ip block number 1 <gmc_v8_0RadeonRX (6): add ip block number 2 <tonga_ihRadeonRX (6): add ip block number 3 <amdgpu_powerplayRadeonRX (6): add ip block number 4 <dce_v11_0RadeonRX (6): add ip block number 5 <gfx_v8_0RadeonRX (6): </amdgpu_device_parse_gpu_info_fw result="0x00000000"RadeonRX (6): Early init of block <vi_common>


and it ends with this messages and no graphics output.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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Re: Trying to get a Radeon HD 7750 working in an AmigaOne XE
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@kas1e
PEX 8111/8112 not works: it means, that Sam440ep-flex or AmigaOne normally boots to AmigaOs, on serial debug there is all OK. Radeon.chip recognized gfx card HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort ouputs and diplay message: "RadeonHD card successfully opened".
But in real I see black screen with no image.

And I forgot if with 8111/2 U-Booot was visible or not - with P17C9X is U-Boot visible.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@sailor

My Polaris was recognized in a sam44-flex. But the x86 emulator wasn't able to correctly init the card. This resulted in a RX driver error which in turn made the sam440 hang during boot.

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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@sailor

My Polaris was recognized in a sam44-flex. But the x86 emulator wasn't able to correctly init the card. This resulted in a RX driver error which in turn made the sam440 hang during boot.

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Re: Pegasos2 with RadeonHD/RX via bridge
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Pegasos 2, AmigaOne, Sam440ep-flex has no PCIe support. But it doesn't matter.

With transparent PCI-PCIe bridge firmware oprerates it like standart PCI-PCI bridge. And transparent means, that messages which the same both on PCI an PCIe definitions are passed-through, different are translated ( for example PCIe assert_int is "translated" to PCI hw interrupt ). Both PEX 8112 and P17C9X bridges are transparent. Hans made some driver optimalizations for 8112 bridge, but for me this bridge not worked.

The only important is, how is firmware capable recognize cards after bridge. Sam440ep do it perfectly, AmigaOne recognize card, but not setup the interrupt nr. and cache line - except this it work. PCIe cards works there with RadeonHD driver. Pegasos I don't know yet. Without correct recognition by firmware Operating System has no chance to operate the card.

Correctly recognized PCIe cards after briges is operated like standart PCI cards.
For me it works on Sam440ep-flex and AmigaOne with PCIe cards upto Southern Island, i.e. HD7970, HD7750, R9 270X. Polaris cards was not recognized.
Today I am using PCIe R9 270X with Sam440ep-flex, and on AmigaOne standart AGP card - there were problems with PCIe card speed.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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Re: MediaVault releases
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Thank you guys for letting me know.

I just tested version 1.5.1 which seems to work fine. There was probably a downtime of the servers I use to retrieve the radio station information.

The favourite list though is stored locally on your system. This should work always even if the servers are down. The data hold the radio station URLs, so as long they are working you can use them.

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