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Half Life 1 possible on sam440?
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Hi all do you think it would be possible to play this game on the sam or would it be to hard to port and would it be to slow ? all thoughts and subbestions welcome

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That would be nice, but why port another FPS game?

I think that we are full of that and besides not my taste actually.

There are far more nicer games beyond FPS that we could try.

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I just think it would be really cool to play this on my miggy

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Half-Life 1 is NOT just "another FPS game". It is perhaps the greatest FPS ever produced (at least for a decade), and single-handedly redefined FPSes. And it's still great fun today!

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While Half-Life 1 would undoubtable run on our hardware (it isn't very demanding by modern standards), the problem is that it is closed source. So it cannot be ported, however much we would like

Hopefully Valve see the light, and follow Id's footsteps...

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But it's still an FPS.

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@carvedeye

But the source is availible ?

This is the main question ...

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I heard Half-Life 2 source code being leaked, but I don't know if that's a rumour or reality.

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That would be nice, but why port another FPS game?

I think that we are full of that and besides not my taste actually.

There are far more nicer games beyond FPS that we could try.


Anf I feel differently, FPS is to my taste and I'd like to see more of them. And Half-Life series is my favorite of the FPS.

I thought someone had inquired to porting it once upon a time but it was either horribly expensive to license or Valve did not want it on Amiga, I forget which, but that was long time ago and maybe Half-Life 1 could be possible today?

I'm just happy to see anything more than cheesy puzzle games.

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Hopefully Valve see the light, and follow Id's footsteps...


Especially since they updated Half-Life 1 to use the Source Engine, they could at least release the original engine source code and people could still have to buy the better Source engine version from them.

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Halflife is great horror game AND base for Counterstrike.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_(video_game)

It`s more horror game and MUCH better then HL 2 and most of the FPS games ...

Requierements are of Pentium times, so EP440 should have nuff power

Minimum

Pentium 133 MHz
24 MB RAM
Windows 95/98/NT4
SVGA video card
Windows-compatible sound card
2x CD-ROM drive
400 MB hard-disk space.

Recommended

Pentium 166 MHz
32 MB RAM
OpenGL- or DirectX-compatible 3D accelerator.

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... and MUCH better then HL 2


erm, no it isn't

Half Life is closed source, there is nothing to port. The only reason that its available on the mac is they ported the source engine themselves, and it needs steam to validate your account.

might as well ask to port halo, you will get the same response

*edit*

just before HL2 was released the source code was indeed stolen by a hacker, and that guy was caught and prosecuted.


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with these requirements it could run also on amiga 1200 + PPC and Gfx board

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FPS? Then why not Far Cry?

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lol....now THAT would be awesome

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@carvedeye

When starting a port, I would suggest the porter to take into account some options:

How many times, will the average gamer have finish the game already? If > 100 times, don't do it.

Will the port support the x,yz, add-ons (official / fan made mods) in order to expand its lifecycle? If no, don't do it.

Will the performance of the game offer a unique experience over other platform? If no, step to next question.

Will at least offer the same performance of the game in other platforms? If no, don't do it.

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I play in heroes3 thousands times, and finish it many times, and still, having it on aos4 will be cool just because some of us like that game very much.

The same about CS. Does not matter how many times and who and what to do with it, and what is support and what is not, because game are cool, and play in it on aos4 will be cool as well.

And about perfomance its also old story: modern games will not works normally on zx-spectrum :) It's just can be some luck, that some games (by luck) will works on slow computer normally.

From my side, i would suggest for all the gamers who want to play in normal games on aos4:

-- if you like the game, play in it, if not , then skip it
-- if you have bad perfomance, buy faster computer, and not be in hope that thinks will be cool for the 500mhz cpu and voodoo3/old radeons / buggy-bad-3d drivers.
-- if you want "real support", most luckile you will should pay for it (because support its mostly not so interesting work).

And so on. Usuall stuff and nothing new :) The verditc is: 1ghz cpu, new 3d, new radeons = minimum for all the games. Not the maximum even. Crisot plays in quake3 on aos4 only when he have 1.5ghz cpu on his A1, i am 100% sure no he, not everyone else can play in quake3 on sam with 600mhz normally, in 1280x960.

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@kas1e

And I play Quake 2 regulary since I am in the Greek national CTF team. I fully understand what you mean when having fun with a game, you actually get hooked. But the porter should either better focus on good indie games (e.g World of Goo comes to my mind first) or to office apps (if he is skilled enough) since games (and especially FPS) require technoligical standards that Amiga platform cannot provide for the time being. When/if, we have better hardware and better drivers etc then, why not?

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In general that all matter of "found the good game/app which have sources, contacting with authors to ask for sources, etc". Its also not so easy today, when we already have almost all wellknown and popular games (or can't it port because of no shaders/too bad perfomance even on 1ghz). If you can found any games/apps with sources, which we not have and not discuss at the moment - plz post it in topic "new games possible", and maybe we all can try with it as well.

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I believe that there are a lot of nice games to port, that can run normally under 1GHz systems (we have). No need to port something "heavy" till we get an X1000 probably.

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