AmiStore purchases and downloads for OS4 can now be downloaded directly on the A600GS. The files can be downloaded the the Work partition or directly to a USB flash drive.
The next step is to enable AmiStore browsing and purchases for OS4 applications and games.
What the point to have amistore on 68k emulator to download os4 software ? I mean, i remember when everyone asking for proper web where users can buy soft you publish for os4 from any os, it was said "we need uniq store working from os4 only", and instead of proper web where anyone can buy thing without meeting with amistore bugs , one have one more way: buy 68k emulator ! :)
I took this opportunity to fire up the store after a long while
here you go:
1 - a window comes up with a lot of +++ Error 13 in line 1: Host environment not found and takes about a minute to show something
2 - when i tried to log in the password is (and *never* was) saved i *do* have "remember password" set
3 - after typing in the correct password (again) i get an error message in a window
Unable to login to your AmiStore account:
-Download client cannot be started (check AmiStore installation or if RexxMast running)
i checked the installation and...it's there...what more could i check??? i checked RexxMast and...it's running, because four other rexx scripts never complains
so, sorry, but unusable
...
and the binary doesn' t even feature an $VER: version string, so i can't even check the version to report
Sorry... but what's the point?? Will there be an OS4 emulator with the A600 GS?
As if the AppleStore was selling Windows softwares...
It should be way mor logical to be able to buy 68k software from AmiStore OS4.
And last question : do you remember us? Those who bought many things from AmiStore, especially the Enhancer Software Pack, and who have been waiting for years for some real updates (eg. the Radeon drivers with fixes).
I haven't suffered any bugs when using Amistore but I don't like the clunky payment system and the fact that Paypal charges aren't factored into prices displayed on Amistore.
I'd rather it if the server side could deal with card payments directly from within Amistore. Having to open a browser, or more likely get a link emailed so you can complete the payment using another device isn't the greatest experience. If Amigakit want to sell the A600GS to a wider audience they really need to focus getting a payment system more in line with users expectations based on the experience of app stores on other platforms.
Lastly, software not compatible with 68k systems needs to filtered out as standard so, if not outright excluded so as not to cause confusion and dissapointment.
@Rob Yeah, there surely many things to improve in compare with being able to download os4 software from os3 emulator putting in a box, but from the first there were real needs for proper web shop where you can buy digital stuff. But .. that all were discussed many times in last years without any outcome, so..
Edited by kas1e on 2024/10/5 13:07:03 Edited by walkero on 2024/10/5 20:38:00
I'd rather it if the server side could deal with card payments directly from within Amistore. Having to open a browser, or more likely get a link emailed so you can complete the payment using another device isn't the greatest experience. If Amigakit want to sell the A600GS to a wider audience they really need to focus getting a payment system more in line with users expectations based on the experience of app stores on other platforms.
AFAIK, there's one big road-block in the way of achieving this: payment processor APIs require a working modern web browser. For security reasons credit card numbers need to be sent directly to the payment processor (PayPal, Stripe, etc.). That way only the payment processor needs to have a PCI DSS level security.
So we'd need an embeddable browser engine for this.
So we'd need an embeddable browser engine for this.
Might as well require an app while we are at it. Given the world is going to 2FA and 3FA before long. I can't login to Yahoo on my phone without it wanting to send a code to my phone but it works normally from desktop email client.
There's a 3rd party AmiStore buyer Java app. So the method of payment is known. Though, writing it in Java doesn't help again, as the Amiga Java port must be 20 and almost 30 years late by now, so it won't help to have one Amiga application.
First of all something positive, I personally like the design very much, it looks really great. I wish the AmiStore app under AmigaOs4.1 would look like this too.
To me it makes no sense why you would buy AmigaOs4.1 software on an A600GS Especially since you would have to buy that hardware first.
I think most people here want AmigaOs4.1 to evolve in some way and not fall back to a 68k emulation, because we already have WinUae for that.
I still wish them good luck with the continued development of the A600GS and the emulated 68k-compatible AmiBench.
MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne x5000/40 AmigaOs4.1 FE
Looks like AmiStore GS is a medium through which you can purchase both OS3 and OS4 software. With more emphasis on OS4 since it has more products. In some ways the A600GS could be a hardware dongle through which OS4 products can be purchased.
API’s are 200% hackable, it wont be secure, better to pay using QR code, on your phone.
The only security we have, is that all the developers are nice people
I don't think any of the payment processors would allow you to use their APIs in an insecure way, and I don't think it's worth the effort.
Take Stripe as an example. They provide a few ways to "integrate" payments into your website/app: - Using a simple payment link so the checkout is hosted on Stripe.com - An API based payment link. The checkout is hosted on Stripe.com, but Stripe communicates details back to your website/server so you can automatically fulfill orders - Using stripe.js so that Stripe's payment form gets embedded on your website. You've got multiple customization options - A fully custom payment system. You need to prove PCI DSS compliance and spend significant development effort to make your own custom checkout
The only option above that you can avoid using a web-browser engine, is the last one. It's highly likely that it would cost more than getting (and maintaining) an updated and embeddable web-browser running on AmigaOS.
An updated web-browser would also be worth more than a custom AmiStore payment solution.
I'm modest opinion that AmiStore for OS4 need the all software for OS3 and should is open to individual developer, for payment software and game. Like PlayStore of Google.
AFAIK, there's one big road-block in the way of achieving this: payment processor APIs require a working modern web browser. For security reasons credit card numbers need to be sent directly to the payment processor (PayPal, Stripe, etc.). That way only the payment processor needs to have a PCI DSS level security.
What if Amistore only transmitted non-sensitive data such as your username and a code for the product you wish to purchase, and your card details were saved in your account on the Amistore website. On the server side it would reference the product code and username and charge your card accordingly.
A continous payment agrement (CPA) provides the framework for the merchent to charge your card as and when for a non-predetermined amount
My question as someone who isn't a web developer is, can an automated payment be prompted from an external source in this way?
@Raziel Sometimes I see new games for Classic, Final Writer, CubeIDE, PageStream and other small programs. If it offers a chance it is possible that something will appear.
What if Amistore only transmitted non-sensitive data such as your username and a code for the product you wish to purchase, and your card details were saved in your account on the Amistore website. On the server side it would reference the product code and username and charge your card accordingly.
A continous payment agrement (CPA) provides the framework for the merchent to charge your card as and when for a non-predetermined amount
My question as someone who isn't a web developer is, can an automated payment be prompted from an external source in this way?
You mean get users to sign a pre-authorization agreement on an Amistore website which then enables them to purchase from the Amistore with one click?**
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Especially since you would have to buy that hardware first.
