AmigaOS4.1 [On a SAM] and WarpOS apps

Hi All,

I've seen around that it was possible to make WarpOS application to run correctly under Amiga OS 4...

I've followed informations I've found over the net like downloading the WarpOSEmu.lha file from AMINET and installing it ... but ... no WarpOS application work.

Can it be due to the fact that I'm on a Sam440ep ?
I think that all tests were on AmigaONE with Amiga OS 4.0 final ...

For Example, the GLQuakeWOS beta 10 simply don't run.
And some app send back a DSI error.

Does someone that own a Sam440ep have any feedback to give ?

Does someone have a solution for me ?

Thank you.

Kindest Regards,
Fred
Odyssey-Creators

@freddix

I don't know anyone who has got it working under 4.1, either A1 or Sam..

Hopefully a new updated version of WarpOSEmu will be released soon.

@TiredOfLife

Huh? WarpOS Emu works flawlessly here (NightLong PPC, FxPaint WarpOS, GlQuake WarpOS, WipeOut 2097, etc...).

So now, you know one person

@K-L

Oh well in that case, I will do some further testing.

Cheers

@TiredOfLife
I think that I read (on AW.net) there are some problems with this on Sam440, although that I could be wrong.

@ChrisH

You could be right.
I'm not getting anywhere at all.

Tomorrow I will test what works with 4.0 Classic and try again with Sam 4.1 just to confirm stuff I'm trying did work with the wrapper previously.

@TiredOfLife

With the micro and os 4.0 the warp os emu worked fine, with sam and os 4.1 not working at all..

@nubechecorre
Are there some informations from Hyperion explaining this ?

@freddix

Quote:The WarpOS wrapper which is included in the AmigaOne version of AmigaOS 4.1, on Aminet and OS4depot.net only works on 60x, 750 and 74xx CPUs. It can't work on Book-E CPUs like the 440ep, some things required for it aren't compatible in such CPUs and I didn't have the time to reimplement it for the 440ep yet.

@freddix

GLQuakeWOS is probably a bad game to try it with. I never got it to work on my AmigaOne but other WarpOS-applications worked fine.

@Niolator

No trouble at all with GlQuake WarpOS (if you install it correctly and you use the good version)

Joerg: thanks for explaining this to us

@Joerg

Thanks for the infos

@Joerg : Due to the fact that you don't have time to implement WarpOSEmu on MB like SAM440ep, will you release the WarpOSEmu source code to allow us trying to do the changes by ourselves.
If you don't want to release it officially, maybe you can release it individually ( I can send you my e-mail if you want in PM)

@K-L : Yes, on MB others than SAM440ep ones ... You know that I use the correct version on my SAM and Joerg confirmed my doubts ...

Kindest Regards,
Fred

@joerg

From a technical point of view, I would be curious to learn what you do that is not compatible with Book-E processors. I suppose it is related to MMU ...

Edit : Hum ... maybe about the FPU ?

@joerg

Hmmm that's a bit of a disapointment but ah well, at least I know the answer now.
Will stop trying to get this to work.

Cheers

@corto

Quote:Since WarpOS executables use the m68k HUNK executable format their PPC code is loaded in non-executable RAM and the OS4 powerpc.library has to make it executable. On the other CPUs that's done with the segment registers which don't exist in Book-E CPUs.

Quote:That didn't even work on 60x, 750 and 74xx CPUs, a lot of WarpOS software uses unaligned FPU accesses which even those CPUs don't support and a lot of WarpOS software can only work because powerpc.library installs alignment exception handlers which emulate them using integer accesses.
On the SAM440ep that's probably not required since the SAM440ep kernel includes an alignment exception handler already, unlike on 60x, 750 and 74xx CPUs on the 440ep 4 byte alignment isn't enough for 64 bit FPU accesses (it must not cross a 16 byte boundary, which is automatically the case if the alignment is correct: 4 bytes for float, 8 bytes for double).

I've implemented the 440ep support and uploaded a new version to Aminet and OS4depot.net.

@joerg

You are a hero.

Cheers matey.

@Joerg : too good :)
I will get it a try now :)
Thank you so much Joerg :)

@joerg

thanks, if i try to check version and date it give me the same like old version.

regards