USB (DOT4) Printers & OS4.1 **Testing in Progress**

@bitman

I Checked the "log information" in prefs/usb (was not checked by default), this resulted in what you see below. Actually the pcs 2510 started to drag in paper and tried to print something - but couldn't see teh result due to problems with the toner (old printer) - log;

[22:40:05] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 2 succesfully added.
I: [22:40:05] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 is {Vendor: 0xF003, Product: 0x172E, Class: 00.00}
I: [22:40:05] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 initialized
I: [22:43:23] hub.usbfd | HUB | Detaching Function removed from hub port 2
I: [22:43:23] hub.usbfd | HUB | Hub port 2 disabled - port is empty.
I: [22:43:23] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device found on hub port 2.
I: [22:43:23] hub.usbfd | Hub port | Device at port 2 is full-speed.
I: [22:43:23] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 2 succesfully added.
I: [22:43:23] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 is {Vendor: 0xF003, Product: 0x1137, Class: 00.00}
I: [22:43:23] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 initialized
I: [22:44:18] hub.usbfd | HUB | Detaching Function removed from hub port 2
I: [22:44:18] hub.usbfd | HUB | Hub port 2 disabled - port is empty.
I: [22:44:18] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device found on hub port 2.
I: [22:44:18] hub.usbfd | Hub port | Device at port 2 is full-speed.
I: [22:44:18] hub.usbfd | HUB | Device on hub port 2 succesfully added.
I: [22:44:18] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 is {Vendor: 0xF003, Product: 0x172E, Class: 00.00}
I: [22:44:18] USB Fkt Init | Init Fkt | Fkt 0x5FDF7290 initialized

@bitman

Did you have both connected at the same time?

for then you need to tes unit 0 and 1

if not, then if looks like you do not have a dot4 printer.

RWO

@bitman

THe HP PCS 2510 (not a laser-printer) actually printed something (the usb.log content) - but it was only 100 lines of text and nothing happend for 5-10 minutes - printer just said "printing".

But when I closed down the Amiga - the printer actually printed the content?!

The PCS 2510 is a multi-function printer (scanner, fax, printer) -

@ZeroG

Download usblist and unarc it somewhere.
Launch usbstat

If you have a Dot4 printer attached you will get a line which says 7,1,3 as per this example:
010 free ID 03f0:0e17 (7,1,3) Hewlett-Packard, hp LaserJet 1015

If it isn't Dot4 it will say 7,1,1 or 7,1,2.

At least here, I never get anything about IEEE 1284.4 in usb.log.

@rwo

Can you add the protocol number to USBInspector?

@Chris

I'm working on another utility that will show every thing.

RWO

@Troels

thanks for the help..I just decided to push things along as far as I could

@Chris

a sneek preview http://www.amigans.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=271

RWO

@rwo

looks interesting

@rwo

Great thread and verry usefull tool from rwo

The links that I have found easily and put on my last answers aren't sufficient to found a DOT4 printer ???

For sure, It's possible to see the online manual of the printer on the manufacturers site to found real DOT4 or Not.

RWO, what do you think about this bounty (sponsored by amiga users) ??? You need hardware, you baught one and we paid (of course not high level price hardware

NOTE: I'm sure there will be low cost DOT4 printer on the supermarket near us...

@rwo

Looks interesting.

@rwo

Im sorry if this sounds dumb but im not that well up on this. Are ALL new usb printers Dot 4 or are some usb printers not dot 4? Im looking at a cheap brother 3 in 1 printer were i work. Also, if we get Dot4 working on OS4.1 for a HP printer say, will all or most Dot4 printers then work on 4.1 or will a driver/drivers have to be done individually? Cheers....

@Chris
Quote:
Thanks, that will be useful for others - i already know that my HP Business InkJet 1200 is a PCL3GUI printer.

@Amiga1200Mark

That's partly what this discussion is about - nobody seems to know which are Dot4 and which aren't! The consensus seems to be if it is an HP it is more likely to be Dot4.

If Dot4 is supported for one printer/manufacturer then it will be supported for all - barring the usual slightly-out-of-spec implementations.

Unfortunately Dot4 won't help if you don't have a driver for your printer. Again, HPs are generally OK here as they (with few exceptions) are all PCL or PS so the old HP_LaserJet drivers work even if they aren't optimal.

@rwo

Cool.

well just ran USBstat and I get for my HP LaserJet 1012

'003 free ID04f0L0d17 (7,1,3) HP Laserjet 1012.'

so from this it's a DOT 4 printer I guess....will check out my HP 2600n later

@328gts

About hp and DOT4 printer, a link:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/ ... ent.jsp?objectID=bpl10904

who said at start:

HP LaserJet Products - DOT4 Port Printer Not Visible or Print Driver Is Using the Windows USB Port

ISSUE:
When an HP LaserJet 1010, 1012, 1015, 1200, 1300, 2200, 2300, 3200, 3300, 4200 and 4300 series product is installed on a Windows USB port, one of the following may occur....


Seemed to be hP dot4 printers list.

@Troels

what's the next step to get this bounty up & running ?

@328gts

Yes, i agree, what is the next step now with regard to the bounty? Im new and not sure how it works. Also, does anyone know if there is anyone who has a working usb printer on OS4.1?

@Amiga1200Mark

IMHO, this is a special bounty who give hardware to developpers, we wait after RWO for some informations.

- Someone could give a printer to rwo (IMHO postage=Bounty).

- Rwo could buy a DOT4 printer for development (second hand or new=bounty). His goal of course is to choose a DOT4 printer that not cost too much for the bounty.

This is also a kind of test IMHO and if something is possible with the help of the amiga sers, maybe this process could be used for other hardware, I hope.


1. Good list, informations about DOT4 printer. Maybe someone with a PC (not me) know where searching informations.

2. Rwo ask us the printer he has choosen (and the cost and new or second hand) and he wait the money. When money on the bounty, he take the money, buy the printer and do a working driver.

It's how I see that and the best is to wait rwo point of view (and we could see he answer sometime on this thread).

BOUNTY:

Yes, this is a special bounty. Often someone propose a missing software for the amiga or porting missing libraries,... and users give money or not on the project.
This to show the interest on the project. BOUNTY is before starting and donations is during or after the development.


Timberwolf is easy to understand and well known programmers (an example). Sometime, a bounty is proposed but no money on because all wait to know the name of the programmer and if It's a best programmer, money will follow (eg. JIT for UAE).

@Mrodfr

Sounds ok. When RWO gets back to us with information maybe the bounty can be set up. You can count on my donation when it is set up.

@Chris

From USBstat when connecting HP LaserJet 2600n:

003 free 03f0:2e17 (7,1,2) Hewlett-Packard, HP color LaserJet 2600n

So the LaserJet 2600n seems to be a DOT4 aswell