Please someone remove YAM's time contraint

Can someone *pleeease* commit a change to YAM that removes the time restriction on the nightly builds!!

There hasn't been any (significant?) work done for years.
Who knows when the nightly server stops working and we are all screwed.

Going back to a previous version is no option since this beta somewhere along the lines changed the file format making it incompatible with the last official release. There is NO OPTION for us users but to trust a server noone uses anymore.

I depend on YAM for my emails, and my email archive. Have YAM stop and tell me ridiculous things every other time I reboot the machine just eat on my nerves. It doesn't make any sense anymore now that dev has stopped (or almost stopped?).

Who knows when the owner stops paying for the machine??? Then what??? "£#¢& you for being so stupid to use YAM!" or what?

Please remove the time constraint so we can live in peace.

@Deniil

I'm with you there.

If there only was someone of the devs investing a little time to build a new full version.

I was relying on YAM aswell, but have since switched to using my ISP's online page, but since Odyssey isn't updated anymore either and more and more sites starts failing, i'm forced to wait for doomsday when i'm not able to access my mails at all anymore.

Numerous requests have already been sent to the maintainers, the answer stays the same...no time, and shifted interests...

I guess YAM is already dead...

You know Jens is still in the community? He won't let us lost in that worst case scenario.

@Elwood

Yes, i know and that comment about "no time and shifted interests" comes from him...

@Raziel

YAM is a great piece of software,but I am with you that it must not be dependant of nightly builds:I love YAM and its features.

Nughtly builds ar not the best solution for me and I believe that to the comunnity either

Because bugs and the likes

It's open src, you could build a copy for yourself.....

@Raziel
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As of last July the full release of YAM is dead for me. My ISP decided to shut down the non-secure POP3 server and requiring the use of IMAP or a secure POP3 server. The official full release of YAM won't connect to the secure POP3 server and doesn't support IMAP. Odyssey no longer works with my ISPs online email pages so I had to switch to the overnight YAM build in order to continue using my X1000 for email. However, due to failing last releases of Odyssey and YAM, I rarely bother to use my NG Amigas any more.

@broadblues

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Don't we just love that answer

I started looking into this, but stopped pretty early for some reason I can't remember. Probably beacuse it doesn't use git, or that one needed to be an official YAM developer to be allowed to push commits or whatever silly thing I just couldn't be bothered with when I know there are people there who has the code, dependencies and environment setup and could just change one line in the code, commit, and be done with it in 5 minutes.

@xenic
@Deniil

That is sad...i know that time constrants can kill any fun of working on/for a project, but in the meantime the YAM devs should have understand how important (and used) YAM is for the Amiga platform...unfortunately no one seems to care anymore.

Another nail in the coffin

@Deniil

Now (30 october) seems to have/use GIT:
-Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/jens-maus/yam

https://github.com/jens-maus/yam.git

Didn't try to compile under aos4 but:
#SDH1:Programar/SGIT/sgit clone https://github.com/jens-maus/yam.git yam
get 18% (10415 kb, 11763/64279) / idx 16% (10351/64279) / chk 0% ( 0/ 0)

under linux and cross compiling no problems here.

@jabirulo

Not everyone has a cross compiling environment set up.

It should be as easy to compile native/locally, but as it seems, it isn't.

Also, eMail i still an integral part of many users and i for one don't feel the need of relying on a beta build which could possibly destroy my eMail correspondance, hence the need for a "full, official" build.

Just my 2c

@Raziel

Would it be possible to write a launcher that checked the version online and was able to auto update if the local version was close to the timeout?

That should be pretty easy and would not require maintaining a seperate build.

Just a thought.

Cheers,
Bill

why not just start yam with a simple dos script to set the clock back to a working date, start yam, wait for it to initalise then restore the date?

something like this should work:

@Severin

Sure, that will circumvent the fact that there is no new YAM version, but it's not that we couldn't get the dailies to work, it's that they aren't tested and a full release is due for ... well, long enough

@Raziel
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It requires a few minor changes but it does compile native/locally on my X1000. However, it won't compile with the "make" command from OS4 depot; something seems to be wrong with that version of "make". I compiled my own copy of YAM with make v53.1 that was included in the SDK.

@xenic

Are those changes tricky to find out, or trivial?
Could you list them here?

Do you know what's required to push changes to the YAM repo?

I have a few minor ideas about html mail handling... but it won't happen if I need to bang my head against the wall for several hours (which in my life translates to weeks).

@tekmage

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yam already has this built-in.
see menu entry "check version" or so. it also autochecks at every start.
but...
this seems to be broken since several months now. see yams bug
entry
https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/issues/671

regards...
michael

@MichaelMerkel

One of the many SSL problems YAM suffers from

@Deniil
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The only YAM file I had to change was: YAM/src/tools/gitrev.sh

I compiled from an 'sh' shell instead of Amiga shell.

I used the 'make' command that came with the OS4 SDK. Make 53.3 from OS4Depot won't work.

I only compiled it for my own use.

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You would need to open an account at Github and then request to be added to the YAM dev team. YAM is designed to compile for multiple platforms and making changes that work on one platform can easily break the compile or code for other platforms. The current YAM devs are probably the only ones familiar enough with the code to make changes that work on all platforms. If you join the team and commit changes, you will then be the one responsible for keeping YAM working on all platforms. My advice would be to compile your own personal version if you want but leave the repository alone.

@xenic

I would only do "code changes". Not using any libraries or new GUI components that will affect dependencies. But sure, I can just do my own changes too.

It's just that forwarding HTML emails (like a plane or concert ticket) just doesn't work. The receiver (like hotmail) will receive textual garbage and som wierd part.2 file that no one knows what to do with (especially not a mobile phone).