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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/22 16:40    #181
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I've just published a new post on my blog in which I share some details about how I implemented the Undo feature in Rave. Enjoy the read!
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/23 16:16    #182
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I just found some time to read the latest of your blog posts. Thank you for sharing all this information.
What I would like to ask is if you save in Undo only the part that is changed or the whole sample in its previous state. I guess this would make a huge difference in big samples and the used amount of memory, right?
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/23 17:40    #183
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Thanks for reading!

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What I would like to ask is if you save in Undo only the part that is changed or the whole sample in its previous state.

Of course Rave only saves the damaged part, not the entire sample.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/24 16:15    #184
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Nice read about ExMem. Wish it can be used a little bit more transparent for developers (like, you just replace malloc() with it, and be done :) )
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/24 16:19    #185
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Nice read about ExMem. Wish it can be used a little bit more transparent for developers (like, you just replace malloc() with it, and be done :) )

Maybe one day

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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/25 2:44    #186
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Finally got a chance to read the blog. Thanks for writing the blogs. They are enjoyable and informative. Now to get some time to try out the undo feature. Rave will now be my "go to" sound editor.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/9/25 8:47    #187
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I'm glad that you enjoyed the article...

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Rave will now be my "go to" sound editor.

... and I'm even gladder to read this In the meantime, work is continuing on version 1.4, which will come out in late October.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/10/25 8:53    #188
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Not sure if that correct topic to make a bugreports (and if it bug in the Rave at all, and not on my setup), but: recently i got x1000 and trying a rave on it (FE + update1/update2 + gadgets/classes/libs from Enhancer2.2 on top).

Now, almost all the time (but not all the time), when i run Rave, then choose Settings in RMB menu, and then hit "File Requester", then i crashes with such crashlog:

54.53 (17.7.2022) AmigaOne X1000 release
Machine model: 6 (AmigaOne X1000)
Dump of context at 0xDF8B7000
Trap type: DSI exception
Current kernel stack pointer: 0x0293FF00
DSISR: 40000000  DAR: B49CF200
No matching page found
Machine State (raw): 0x100000000200B030
Machine State (verbose): [Hyper] [ExtInt on] [Super] [IAT on] [DAT on]
Instruction pointer: in module kernel+0x00053FEC (0x02053FEC)
Crashed process: Rave (0x61BB8C00)
DSI verbose error description: Access to address 0xB49CF200 not found in hash or BAT (page fault)
Access was a load operation
 0: 02054244 52E15400 00000000 61F11800 52E1660C 00000010 0000000E 0000000B
 8: 61BB8BF0 61BB8BF4 52E1660C 52E16220 48224824 5F6A3E3C 52E15930 5C74D334
16: 5E970260 0000020A 61F6955E 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000004 52E161A0
24: 00000000 62297730 00000000 5C74CC5C 00000006 00000008 00000008 52E165FC
CR: 28224828   XER: 20000000  CTR: 02032478  LR: 02054244

V0 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V2 : FFA4A4A4FF010101FFCACACAFFCECECE FFCECECEFF888888FF363636FFCECECE
V4 : 01000100010001000100010001000100 00000000000000000000000000000000
V6 : FF01CE32FF018878FF0136CAFF01CE32 FF000000FF000000FF000000FF000000
V8 : 101112131415161718191A1B1C1D1E1F FFA4A4A4FF010101FFCACACAFFCECECE
V10: 001002120414061608180A1A0C1C0E1E 01000100010001000100010001000100
V12: 01000100010001000100010001000100 0405060708090A0B0C0D0E0F10111213
V14: CE32CE328878887836CA36CACE32CE32 00000000FFCECECEFFCECECEFFCECECE
V16: 00000000CD32CD32CD32CD32CD32CD32 FFCECECEFF888888FF363636FFCECECE
V18: 00000000FE01CD32FE01CD32FE01CD32 A35CA35C00FF00FFC936C936CD32CD32
V20: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V22: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V24: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V26: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V28: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V30: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VSCR: 00000000 VRSAVE: 00000000

Disassembly of crash site:
 02053FDC: 55090038   rlwinm            r9,r8,0,0,28
 02053FE0: 7D442A14   add               r10,r4,r5
 02053FE4: 39290004   addi              r9,r9,4
 02053FE8: 7D445378   mr                r4,r10
>02053FEC: 7CEA482E   lwzx              r7,r10,r9
 02053FF0: 54E7077E   rlwinm            r7,r7,0,29,31
 02053FF4: 7CEA492E   stwx              r7,r10,r9
 02053FF8: 7D3F282E   lwzx              r9,r31,r5
 02053FFC: 55290038   rlwinm            r9,r9,0,0,28
 02054000: 39290004   addi              r9,r9,4

Kernel command line: DEBUGLEVEL=0 SERIAL

Registers pointing to code:
r0 : native kernel module kernel+0x00054244
ip : native kernel module kernel+0x00053fec
lr : native kernel module kernel+0x00054244
ctr: native kernel module kernel+0x00032478

Stack trace:
(0x52E15400) native kernel module kernel+0x00053fec
(0x52E15410) native kernel module kernel+0x00054244
(0x52E15420) native kernel module kernel+0x000542e0
(0x52E15440) native kernel module kernel+0x000336f8
(0x52E15460) module CLASSES:gadgets/button.gadget at 0x7FFBF1C4 (section 0 @ 0x31A0)
(0x52E15560) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E155C0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E15640) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE0D180 (section 0 @ 0x415C)
(0x52E15700) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE11574 (section 0 @ 0x8550)
(0x52E15830) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E15890) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E15910) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE0D180 (section 0 @ 0x415C)
(0x52E159D0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE11574 (section 0 @ 0x8550)
(0x52E15B00) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E15B60) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E15BE0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE0D180 (section 0 @ 0x415C)
(0x52E15CA0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE11574 (section 0 @ 0x8550)
(0x52E15DD0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E15E30) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E15EB0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE0D180 (section 0 @ 0x415C)
(0x52E15F70) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE11574 (section 0 @ 0x8550)
(0x52E160A0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E16100) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E16180) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FE0DDBC (section 0 @ 0x4D98)
(0x52E16290) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FE18300 (section 0 @ 0x22DC)
(0x52E162B0) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FE1A50C (section 0 @ 0x44E8)
(0x52E16310) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FE21D3C (section 0 @ 0xBD18)
(0x52E164E0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00020288
(0x52E16540) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00021578
(0x52E165C0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a568
(0x52E16630) 0x61F11E64 [cannot decode symbol]
(0x52E16730) module Rave at 0x7F01AFC8 (section 0 @ 0x13FA4)
(0x52E16770) module Rave at 0x7F00FAD8 (section 0 @ 0x8AB4)
(0x52E16810) module Rave at 0x7F018330 (section 0 @ 0x1130C)
(0x52E16D10) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000025fc
(0x52E16D60) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000032d8
(0x52E16F10) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x0000384c
(0x52E16F40) Rave:_start()+0x1e0 (section 1 @ 0x1DC)
(0x52E16F90) native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x0002a458
(0x52E16FC0) native kernel module kernel+0x0005a124
(0x52E16FD0) native kernel module kernel+0x0005a19c

Disassembly of crash site:
 02053FDC: 55090038   rlwinm            r9,r8,0,0,28
 02053FE0: 7D442A14   add               r10,r4,r5
 02053FE4: 39290004   addi              r9,r9,4
 02053FE8: 7D445378   mr                r4,r10
>02053FEC: 7CEA482E   lwzx              r7,r10,r9
 02053FF0: 54E7077E   rlwinm            r7,r7,0,29,31
 02053FF4: 7CEA492E   stwx              r7,r10,r9
 02053FF8: 7D3F282E   lwzx              r9,r31,r5
 02053FFC: 55290038   rlwinm            r9,r9,0,0,28
 02054000: 39290004   addi              r9,r9,4
Stack pointer (0x52E15400) is inside bounds
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But i never-ever have such kind of crash on the X5000, that for sure. So maye that some class/gadget is not updated .. Have a clue maybe ?:)
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/10/25 18:20    #189
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when i run Rave, then choose Settings in RMB menu, and then hit "File Requester", then i crashes with such crashlog

Just tried this 10 times on my X1000 and unable to see the issue.
No crashes here.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/10/25 18:38    #190
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Intersting .. You on public update2, right ? I am also on public update2, just "only" latest beta kernel + latest enhancer classes.

I retested again , and basically just going to settings, and go through "Display/File requester/Advanced" cause a crash. I.e. you can run settings, adn the click on "Advanced" to have the same crash.

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Can you point out plz which exactly gadgets/classes Rave uses, so i can check maybe i have some beta enhancer gadgets which cause this..


Maybe GUI settings make a difference somehow..
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
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Intersting .. You on public update2, right ?

Yes, I'm running latest public OS4 and Enhancer stuff with all updates from "Updater", so it should be the latest public everything.
Can't do any more testing right now as I'm at work but later tonight I can try things out again.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 2022/10/25 20:59    #193
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I retested again , and basically just going to settings, and go through "Display/File requester/Advanced" cause a crash. I.e. you can run settings, adn the click on "Advanced" to have the same crash.

Each clicking on the Advanced tab runs a piece of code that checks the current available space in the temp directory. What is your setting for temporary files?
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Posted on: 2022/10/25 21:10    #194
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Each clicking on the Advanced tab runs a piece of code that checks the current available space in the temp directory. What is your setting for temporary files?


It was just plain download from os4depot / unpack / run , change nothing. But crash happens even if i just click on "File requester" tab too, right after spawn a settings.

Anyway, is this "temp" setting in rave's settings ? If so, i can only navigate in Display one, File Reuqest and Advanced one crashes
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Hm, in that case it's something else. The temp directory defaults to PROGDIR:Temp/

When clicking on the File requester and Advanced listbrowser items, the program performs a WM_RETHINK. Perhaps your system has an old version of window.class? Just guessing.

Please let me know which version you have of:
window.class
layout.gadget
listbrowser.gadget
clicktab.gadget
button.gadget
string.gadget
getfile.gadget

The Prefs window doesn't use any Enhancer gadgets, so I don't think the problem is there.
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Please let me know which version you have of


window.class - 54.14 (04/16/2020)
layout.gadget - 54.8 (05/16/2019)
listbrowser.gadget - 53.74 (10/23/2016)
clicktab.gadget - 53.50 (04/21/2020)
button.gadget - 53.22 (07/27/2017)
string.gadget - 53.22 (06/16/2017)
getfile.gadget - 53.12 (10/05/2014)


If you can show me yours, that also may help (i may try to downgrade/upgrade if there will be differences)

Thanks for worry :)
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Same versions as yours, except for string.gadget - I have the new one that was released recently.

Looking at the code I can see that there's a SetGadgetAttrs() call before the WM_RETHINK, which triggers an unnecessary refresh. I've changed it to plain SetAttrs() because the rethink does the refresh automatically. But no idea whether it'll help fix the problem...
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The new Rear Window blog post is a report from my visit to the Amiga37 party in Germany. Enjoy!
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Great read and very well written, thanks for sharing your story!
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I have written a guest story for amiga-news.de's 2022 Advent Calendar, which you can read under this link. I'd like to thank Daniel Reimann of the Amiga-news Team for the opportunity!
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