Couldn't find a bootloader. Halting (and booting without Startup-Sequence)

Hi, why am I seeing this message all of a sudden. I power on, see the AEON screen and then see this message on a white background.

Just before this happened, I was in uboot. I was trying to remember how to start the system without startup-sequence.

I was using uboot which was a little glitch due to the new keyboard I am using. The POLL error messages showing and a glitch menu. But before it was still usable.

I navigated to the menu option with "Boot" in the name, I think it was the second to last entry. Pressed enter. I got this message and it just hung. So, I reset the machine, now I get this message all the time. I powered off for 10 minutes and from cold it still shows itself.

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EDIT (at time of comment #15)

See also: https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8857
https://forum.hyperion-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=4542

Neither of these have a solution. It just seems to have randomly happened and randomly stopped. Going from NGFS to SFS2 didn't really help. Will consider using a brand new SATA SSD next. As much as a doubt that it is due to badly connected SATA cables, my doubt becomes less, but that confuses me, because those cables literally do not move.

Perhaps I will try a combination of a new SARA drive and some "gold plated" (if such things exist) SATA cables, hot glued all-to-hell into the ports.

I guess... somehow the SD card is now corrupt? I don't have an image for the SD card.

I also cannot see a single search on the Internet with the text "Couldn't find a boot loader. Halting".

I have unplugged everything. Apart from the power. Same thing. Then I attached serial, see above.

I have tried to use the emergency usb boot in the bottom row of rear USB slots, as well as the middle row. Same thing.

I have removed the SD card to see what happens, in that case the system does not come on at all which suggests that the sd card is not all that bad...

When I power the machine on with the halt message I see that the top 6 leds are on, the highest one green. The two lowest are dimly lit.

What the hell.

@rjd324

Do you have a uboot command line? I would maybe try entering

@rjd324

Also double check your drive cables. I had alot of boot problems earlier this year which I traced to a loose sata connection.

Looking back, you opened a similar thread before

https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8857

Okay, now it seems to be okay. I plugged in the X1000 keyboard. That was all really weird. Thanks for the thread link. For some reason I did not provide a reason for why that "HALT" message appeared.

EDIT: I think I performed a full reinstall, actually. I should have documented that in the thread which I normally do. I think I went with SFS2 instead of NGFS.

How can I boot with no startup sequence?

@rjd324

Keep CTRL key pressed while booting. It will get you to the cli.

Pressing both mouse buttons while booting will get you to the early boot menu. But the option "boot without startup-sequence" will not work if you have a Radeon RX because it performs a soft reset.

Thanks. I solved it now by just attaching to my X1000.


So, does this also not work if you have a RadeonRX?

@rjd324

The CTRL method works fine with RadeonRX. Just the classic Amigaos way with LMB+RMB pressed doesn't work if you want to boot without startup-sequence.

@geennaam

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Yes, it does, but it’s extremely hard, you need to press the mouse button just after USB is initialized, after kickstart modules are loaded, if you have a scroll lock key, you can press that insted, press lots of times. don't press and hold.

@LiveForIt
Maybe I was unclear so let me rephrase:

Holding RMB+LMB does work if you want to display the early startup menu like on the classic amigas. But if you select the option "Boot without startup-sequence", this will perform a soft reset before booting into the CLI. This will NOT work for RadeonRX owners and will result in a black screen. But please correct me if I am wrong.


Holding CTRL while booting will take you directly to the CLI.

@geennaam
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Your are right, that exactly what happens. Holding 2 buttons of mouse works well, and detect fine (you just can hold it right once power up machine, and they will reacts fine while kickstarts to be loaded), but then does not matter what you choose, you will back to soft-boot which do not work and so black screen are there.

But Holding CTRL while booting will take you directly to the CLI works still.

There were discussion about in the os4beta just recently when i brought this topic up, and in short, Hans can't make soft-reset works. Even if it possible, he tried best he can and can't make it works. So a workaround were suggested to change boot-menu boot menu module instead, so to not perform soft-reboot when we want to go further with boot-with-no-ss , etc. But there wasn't anyone willing to implement it and everything ends up with no final result.

So long as holding CNTRL works then at least there is a solution.

@rjd324

Sorry for dredging up an old topic, but is there a way to remap that key? My kvm seems to want to have that key active when I boot up my x5000 so u have to unplug the USB for it before booting.

Thanks
Dave

I really do not know, but I would be surprised of it could be remapped at such a low level.