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Hypex

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/23 14:50 #21

Not too shy to talk

@MartinW

I suppose you're over it now but I noticed your DVD drive came up as unit 0. I wonder if this might mess up the boot process? If it's setup to boot a HDD of unit 0? Usually that was the case.

The system does sound a bit flaky if it just crashes like that. Something is wrong there. I have noticed that sometimes if a system component is an incompatible or older version then something will crash. That doesn't look like well programmed software which would use a specific version and fail otherwise.
That's what Amiga standard software is expected to do and I expected system software to set an example and hold to that standard tightly.

Edited by Hypex on 2024/6/24 15:54:07

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/23 22:04 #22

Not too shy to talk

Just got in from a day out. So, yes, I’ve always felt that the system seems a bit flakey. It does seem like it’s easily crashed but unless there is a list of what all the correct latest or most compatible kickstart devices and libs for each system are then It’s not desperately easy to know what might be out of place. Especially when my system, like most now wasn’t built from scratch, but from a recovery stick.

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

Hypex

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/24 16:28 #23

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@MartinW

It's possible that may affect it. Though if standard updates have been applied on top it should be fine. Would be good if there was an integrity check of all components above that of doing a simple AmiUpdate.

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/24 17:06 #24

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@Hypex

Is there any mileage in me giving a list of versions of all the kickstart files and system libs in my system? Would anyone actually know if one was out of place? Such a list doesn’t need to be posted here, could be anywhere.

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

nbache

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/24 21:58 #25

Just can't stay away

Just use AmiUpdate, it will list and optionally install anything out of date.

Best regards,

Niels

Lio

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/24 22:51 #26

Quite a regular

Showcomputer from OS4depot will list your config but there are other tools like SysMon, Ranger, ShowConfig...

http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... ty/shell/showcomputer.lha

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/24 23:18 #27

Not too shy to talk

@nbache

I think you missed my point there a bit. I realise that AmiUpdate can tell me if any of the programs and libs that it knows about are up to date or whatever, and yeah, I run it quite often. But it didn't for example know that if I wanted to run an internal SATA CD drive on a 5040 board that actually, the 5020 data driver is what you want because the updated 5040 one doesn't appear to work properly*. And it can't know that "hey, you've got XYZ lib and ABC libs and they're known to cause issues together" etc.

*NB: No idea how stable or performant running the 5020 sata drive on a 5040 is, all I know is that it resolved the issues with the CD drive. I've switched back for now since I never intended to install the internal drive permanently anyway as my case doesn't have a 5.25" bay.

For what it's worth, I ran AmiUpdate just now. It found an update for GeekBench2D, installed it, I rescanned afterwards and AmiUpdate crashed with a DSI error. So that's nice and stable too

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GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

nbache

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/25 0:13 #28

Just can't stay away

@MartinW

Quote:

I think you missed my point there a bit.

Yeah, I may well have missed that point, sorry.

But when you mention the 5020 vs. 5040 sata driver, I suspect you are not really fully updated anyway, because the two drivers have (for several years) been unified into p50x0sata.device.kmod.

Are you sure you have configured AmiUpdate correctly? And did you install Update 2 and all further updates since.that?

Oh, and which version of AmiUpdate?

Best regards,

Niels

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/25 0:53 #29

Not too shy to talk

Ok, now it's my turn to be wrong

When I referred to the 5040 driver, I actually mean the unified one, the one called "p50x0sata.device" I called it the 5040 one (wrongly) because the 5020 one is explicitly called p5020sata.device and well, there are only 2 boards that we use, 5020 and 5040. So, yeah, my bad there.

So, what I actually mean, is that the unified one, in my testing at the weekend over the coarse of this thread was terribly buggy with the internal CD drive and the (presumably older) 5020 specific one worked much better for me even though I have the 5040 board. Is it meant to be used on the 5040 board? I don't know. Presumably not, or things wouldn't have progressed to the unified driver. All I know is that the 5020 specific driver worked better in my 5040 than the 50x0 driver.

I probably wrote far more there than I needed!

So as for the other questions, AmiUpdate says it's v2.54 (18.2.2024). Is it configured correctly? Don't know. Both 'www.amiupdate.net' and 'update.amigaos.net' are defined and enabled. I don't see much else of relevance in the prefs. aminupdate.net is the default, bold, server.

For update 2 - no I didn't install that because my system came preconfigured with a USB "rescue" disk instead of actual install media and was installed (ny me) by restoring this to a new hard drive. The text in the top menu bar says Update 2 is installed, but that will have been by the supplier, not me, so I assume it is, but since I didn't do it, I can't be sure.

I mean, it doesn't really sound like much is up with the system in terms of drivers and libs. I think it's just pretty normal to get DSI errors and stuff. That's how it's been so far anyway.

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

nbache

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/25 9:57 #30

Just can't stay away

@MartinW

Quote:

Ok, now it's my turn to be wrong

When I referred to the 5040 driver, I actually mean the unified one, the one called "p50x0sata.device" I called it the 5040 one (wrongly) because the 5020 one is explicitly called p5020sata.device and well, there are only 2 boards that we use, 5020 and 5040. So, yeah, my bad there.

Ah, I see. In fact, now that I think back properly, I believe there was never released any driver named 5040 into public. The 50x0 name was born while the driver's support for the 040 was still in beta.

Quote:

All I know is that the 5020 specific driver worked better in my 5040 than the 50x0 driver.

Okay. In effect, what you are seeing is that an older version of the driver works better for you than a newer one - it's the same driver, it just got some support for the 040 built in.

Quote:

AmiUpdate says it's v2.54 (18.2.2024).

Sounds fine.

Quote:

Both 'www.amiupdate.net' and 'update.amigaos.net' are defined and enabled.

Also fine.

Quote:

I don't see much else of relevance in the prefs. aminupdate.net is the default, bold, server.

Okay.

Quote:

For update 2 - no I didn't install that because my system came preconfigured with a USB "rescue" disk instead of actual install media and was installed (ny me) by restoring this to a new hard drive. The text in the top menu bar says Update 2 is installed, but that will have been by the supplier, not me, so I assume it is, but since I didn't do it, I can't be sure.

Right. So it looks like the supplier has installed whatever was the latest at the time, fine. But have you registered your copy of OS4.1 FE at the Hyperion website, and have you entered your login credentials for that site into AmiUpdate when prompted? Otherwise you won't be able to make AmiUpdate download and install updates released after your installation was made.

Best regards,

Niels

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/25 10:43 #31

Not too shy to talk

@nbache

Yes to both of those last two as well. So I think in terms of whether libs and drivers are the latest, I should be good.

So is any work still being done on drivers and the like? Does someone need to know that there were problems with SATA Optical drives and the 50x0 driver?

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

nbache

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/25 12:26 #32

Just can't stay away

@MartinW

Quote:

is any work still being done on drivers and the like?

I could tell you, but then ...

Quote:

Does someone need to know that there were problems with SATA Optical drives and the 50x0 driver?

I believe these problems are related to known issues, still on the TODO list AFAIK.

Best regards,

Niels

Hypex

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/26 6:17 #33

Not too shy to talk

@MartinW

Sure, but it would help to have hidden tags, so it doesn't bloat up. This is from my volume without much extra clutter. It's recent but I didn't do an update check on it before building the list. It's from my X1000 so would differ to your X5000 but can provide a guide.


elf.library 54.1 ( 7/12/2023)

RadeonHD.chip 3.7 (19/11/2019)

newlib.library 53.80 ( 6/04/2022)

sii3112ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

sii3114ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

sii3512ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

strap 53.5 (28/11/2015)

timer.device 53.4 ( 7/05/2016)

uhci.usbhcd 53.15 (15/11/2020)

usbresource.library 53.22 (15/11/2020)

usbsys.device 53.22 (15/11/2020)

PCIGraphics.card 53.18 (16/11/2019)

xena.resource.kmod 53.3 (16/12/2016)

hub 53.11 ( 7/06/2020)

nonvolatile.library 54.7 (25/09/2019)

ohci.usbhcd 53.22 (26/10/2020)

ram-handler 54.24 ( 9/12/2019)

ramdrive.device 54.1 (22/02/2015)

ramlib 54.2 (24/09/2019)

sii0680ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

SmartFilesystem 1.290 (21/01/2011)

loader 54.2 ( 7/05/2020)

sb600ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

sb600sata.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

it8212ide.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

lsi53c8xx.device 53.22 (28/06/2017)

massstorage.usbfd 53.84 (15/08/2018)

mounter.library 53.20 (15/11/2016)

shell 53.15 (11/11/2013)

petunia 53.6 (13/11/2013)

graphics.library 54.248 (23/02/2020)

intuition.library 54.28 ( 3/12/2019)

kernel 54.30 ( 1/01/2021)

ehci.usbhcd 53.26 ( 3/04/2018)

env-handler 54.18 ( 7/12/2019)

gadtools.library 53.8 (12/12/2015)

input.device 53.6 ( 8/07/2015)

keymap.library 53.9 ( 4/05/2014)

keyboard.device 53.11 (16/03/2014)

pasemi_dma.resource 53.3 (25/11/2019)

dos 54.112 ( 4/01/2021)

CDFileSystem 53.8 (20/10/2019)

con-handler 53.82 (11/02/2018)

console.device 53.105 (25/01/2017)

JXFileSystem 4.34 (26/03/2009)

hunk.library 53.4 ( 2/05/2011)

FileSystem.resource 53.1 (12/02/2011)

bootmouse 53.3 (20/01/2016)

FastFileSystem 53.2 (11/03/2009)

diskcache.library 3.30 (13/10/2008)

diskboot 53.11 (19/04/2014)

diskboot.config 53.9 (26/02/2014)

cfide.device 53.5 (27/02/2014)

ATIRadeon.chip 53.29 ( 3/11/2016)

battclock.resource 54.1 ( 1/05/2016)

bootmenu.kmod 53.12 (22/06/2016)

bootsound.kmod 53.2 ( 9/01/2014)

bootkeyboard.usbfd 52.3 ( 1/04/2007)

bootimage 53.4 ( 5/10/2014)

biosversion.resource 53.3 (11/05/2011)

3DLabsPermedia2.chip 7.33 ( 1/06/2014)

3dfxVoodoo.chip 7.27 (10/12/2010)

Here's my Libs:


update.library 53.19 (31/12/2021)

icon.library 54.6 (27/12/2015)

lzma.library 53.7 (24/12/2018)

minigl.library 2.24 (21/10/2020)

z.library 53.9 (30/07/2017)

bzip2.library 53.4 (28/03/2014)

btree.library 53.3 ( 6/09/2015)

Warp3D.library 53.27 (24/05/2016)

boards.library 3.12 (26/07/2013)

maintained by Marcus Gerards

bz2.library 53.3 (10/06/2013)

threads.library 1.4 (31/05/2005)

xpkmaster.library 5.2 ( 8/09/1999)

version.library 53.18 ( 6/01/2021)

mglut.library 2.24 (21/10/2020)

usbhidgate.library 53.3 ( 4/09/2015)

workbench.library 53.62 (13/11/2018)

xadmaster.library 13.2 (17/12/2016)

openpci.library 2.1beta4 68k ( 8/10/2009)

wbstartup.library 53.8 (26/09/2013)

Warp3DPPC.library 4.3 (18/01/2008)

usergroup.library 4.30 (11/03/2009)

usergroup.library.main 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

triton.library 7.1 (19/11/2009)

timesync.library 53.11 (27/04/2021)

pthreads.library 53.12 (24/05/2020)

timezone.library 53.11 ( 1/02/2018)

sb128.audio.main 

rexxsyslib.library 53.4 (21/02/2013)

rexxsyslib.library.main 53.3 (21/02/2013)

rexxsupport.library 34.9 ( 1/12/1989)

rexxmathlib 45.2 (24/02/2001)

resource.library 44.103 (28/11/2001)

resource.library.main 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

realtime.library 53.5 (27/10/2012)

diskfont.library 53.13 (28/02/2020)

mathieeedoubbas.library 53.1 (17/01/2017)

popupmenu.library 53.14 (25/04/2016)

locale.library 54.2 (28/05/2016)

powerpc.library 16.41 (15/03/2009)

newicon.library 45.0 (27/10/2000)

mathtrans.library 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

mathieeesingtrans.library 45.4 (12/12/2000)

mathieeesingbas.library 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

mathieeedoubtrans.library 52.2 ( 8/07/2007)

commodities.library 53.10 (13/06/2017)

datatypes.library 54.7 (13/05/2016)

diskio.library 53.21 (27/05/2015)

expat.library 53.6 (15/01/2017)

filesysbox.library 54.9 ( 9/04/2019)

iffparse.library 53.3 (29/07/2015)

lowlevel.library 53.1 (23/12/2015)

mathffp.library 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

ft2.library 53.2 (21/12/2011)

fm801.audio.main 

filesave.audio.main 

amisslmaster.library 5.6 (15/12/2022)

application.library 53.30 ( 5/01/2021)

AmigaInput.library 53.4 (28/12/2015)

asl.library 53.54 (16/04/2020)

camd.library 53.7 (19/03/2017)

codesets.library 6.21 (16/01/2018)

sysvipc.library 51.4 (25/02/2007)

amigaguide.library 53.8 (11/12/2015)

cybergraphics.library.main 

bullet.library 44.1 ( 1/05/1999)

bsdsocket.library 4.307 ( 9/02/2012)

render.library 40.8 (30/03/2003)

guigfx.library 20.0 (26/04/2003)

screenblanker.library 53.7 (23/12/2015)

bsdsocket.library.main 52.1 ( 8/12/2006)

MartinW

Re: Using USB CD Drive with OS4 / X5040

Posted on: 6/28 11:44 #34

Not too shy to talk

@Hypex thank you - I haven't checked these yet as it's been a manic work week, but I will.

Amiga x5040 ı 16GB ı RX580
GB-A1000 060@100,
A1200 PiStorm32-Lite CM4

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