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Detordiggei

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/16 11:39 #81

Just popping in

I'm still experiencing a substantial instability on my 1222. I must open apps in a certain order to avoid the Grim Reaper such as: never launch AMIStore as the first app after boot, never launch an .AVI file as first file after boot, Tower57 no audio, Doom3 not working anymore, TuneNet is crashing quite often, etc...

And the weird part is that if I follow "the rules", the system can stay stable for hours. I know that we're in an experimental field, but it's clear to me that other owners are usually not experiencing my same issues. I tried many video cards, a few ram modules, and I managed to fix here and there, but without the amazing alternative SPE drivers I couldn't really make the 3d side working, which shouldn't be mandatory.

In conclusion, at the moment, My Sam460 and my AmigaOneXE G4 are way more reliable, but I'm positive that sometimes in the future, I will find the reason and sort this.

Maijestro

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/16 14:24 #82

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@Detordiggei

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Detordiggei wrote:I'm still experiencing a substantial instability on my 1222. I must open apps in a certain order to avoid the Grim Reaper such as: never launch AMIStore as the first app after boot, never launch an .AVI file as first file after boot, Tower57 no audio, Doom3 not working anymore, TuneNet is crashing quite often, etc...

I have just tested this on my hardware AmiStore can be started as the first app without any problems. TuneNet works very well and stable as well as streaming and playing with .mp3.

If you bought Tower57 you have to replace the exe with this one:

https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/A5WuFk4Nu#file

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And the weird part is that if I follow "the rules", the system can stay stable for hours. I know that we're in an experimental field, but it's clear to me that other owners are usually not experiencing my same issues. I tried many video cards, a few ram modules, and I managed to fix here and there, but without the amazing alternative SPE drivers I couldn't really make the 3d side working, which shouldn't be mandatory.

Basically, 3D acceleration works, but usually a MiniGL/Gles application can only be run once without problems. When running it again, the whole system often freezes. I suspect that MiniGL/Gles on the A1222 is simply faulty. It could also be a driver problem, but I'm not sure about that.

Maybe you could provide some bug reports so we can see what crashes and why it crashes?

On another note, what USB ports are you using on your A1222?

Something else about my system I use a RX570 (8GB) ITX and Samsung 8GB PC3L-12800S DDR3 1600 MHz 1.35 V SODIMM memory and it works fine.

Edited by Maijestro on 2024/7/16 16:34:14

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Detordiggei

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/16 23:33 #83

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@Maijestro

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I have just tested this on my hardware AmiStore can be started as the first app without any problems. TuneNet works very well and stable as well as streaming and playing with .mp3.

Duly noted, I'll keep an eye on this.

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If you bought Tower57 you have to replace the exe with this one:

https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/A5WuFk4Nu#file

Thanks, this fixed audio

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Basically, 3D acceleration works, but usually a MiniGL/Gles application can only be run once without problems. When running it again, the whole system often freezes. I suspect that MiniGL/Gles on the A1222 is simply faulty. It could also be a driver problem, but I'm not sure about that.

Maybe you could provide some bug reports so we can see what crashes and why it crashes?

Yes, I guess it's worth going deep into this, I'll save a list and I'll post it back.

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On another note, what USB ports are you using on your A1222?

Interesting question, I never really cared about this detail, I have the 2 front ports connected with two internal USB3->USB2 adaptors, mostly all the time. Does it make any difference?

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Something else about my system I use a RX570 (8GB) ITX and Samsung 8GB PC3L-12800S DDR3 1600 MHz 1.35 V SODIMM memory and it works fine.

I'm using a Sapphire RX580 (8GB) right now. I tried an Asus RX560 (4GB), a Sapphire RX480 (8GB) and another Asus RX550 (4GB). Again it doesn't seemed to change anything, I'm keeping the RX580 just because it's more fancy I guess, in terms of crashes nothing changed.
I've ordered this same RAM of yours, so I'll be able to test it. At the moment I'm using a quite expensive 4GB NAS 1600 MHz DDR 1.35 V from TerraMaster. I tried a few different modules and I'm finding this one the most reliable, even if I really haven't noticed any relevant difference so far.

Detordiggei

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/17 11:15 #84

Just popping in

Update: AMIStore was crashing because I wasn't using a fixed IP, now it's working like a charm, this setting is preventing network related failures so far.

Maijestro

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/17 18:37 #85

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@Detordiggei

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Detordiggei wrote:Update: AMIStore was crashing because I wasn't using a fixed IP, now it's working like a charm, this setting is preventing network related failures so far.

Ok, that will have been the problem. If you continue to have various crashes, please try using only the front USB ports.

I also had problems with the right rear USB port that the TCP/IP stack/etnernet driver and other things crashed often.

My configuration is now as follows:

On the two front USB ports I have my wireless adapter for mouse and keyboard and on the rear left USB port I have a USB HUB with other devices connected and that works fine so far.

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eliyahu

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/17 18:48 #86

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@Maijestro

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Ok, that will have been the problem. If you continue to have various crashes, please try using only the front USB ports.

I also had problems with the right rear USB port that the TCP/IP stack/etnernet driver and other things crashed often.

I have never seen anything like this with my system. I wonder if there's an actual issue introduced with the production board. Has anyone with the original Tabor beta boards experienced this?

-- eliyahu

"Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. When the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."

ktadd

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/17 18:54 #87

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@Maijestro
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I also had problems with the right rear USB port that the TCP/IP stack/etnernet driver and other things crashed often.

Hmm...I'm confused by this? The rear USB ports on the A1222+ are not side by side, they are stacked one on top of the other. I have my wireless keybaord plugged into the bottom rear USB port and have had no issues. I've also used the top rear USB port without issues. Are you refering to the LAN ports?

AmigaOne X1000, A1222Plus, uA1

Maijestro

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/18 6:07 #88

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@ktadd

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ktadd wrote:@Maijestro
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I also had problems with the right rear USB port that the TCP/IP stack/etnernet driver and other things crashed often.

Hmm...I'm confused by this? The rear USB ports on the A1222+ are not side by side, they are stacked one on top of the other. I have my wireless keybaord plugged into the bottom rear USB port and have had no issues. I've also used the top rear USB port without issues. Are you refering to the LAN ports?

In my case, the rear USB ports are next to each other. hmmm....you can see it in the photo.

I suspect there is confusion because they use a different tower. And not the most complete one as provided by A-EON

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ktadd

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/18 6:16 #89

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@Maijestro
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In my case, the rear USB ports are next to each other. hmmm....you can see it in the photo.

Ah, makes sense. Your looking at the board vertically and I'm looking at it horizontally.

AmigaOne X1000, A1222Plus, uA1

Maijestro

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/18 17:18 #90

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@eliyahu

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eliyahu wrote:@Maijestro

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Ok, that will have been the problem. If you continue to have various crashes, please try using only the front USB ports.

I also had problems with the right rear USB port that the TCP/IP stack/etnernet driver and other things crashed often.

I have never seen anything like this with my system. I wonder if there's an actual issue introduced with the production board. Has anyone with the original Tabor beta boards experienced this?

Believe me, the error is there and I have already reported it or someone has done it for me. You can read all about it here.

https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9592

Most bugs will only show up when people use this hardware with different configurations. It's the same with software bugs. I'm also not sure how many beta tests there were for the A1222, but I don't think there were many.

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Maijestro

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/24 19:12 #91

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The developer of GoldenCode “Daytona675x” has currently made available all his developments that have been SPE optimized. Tower57/VoxelBird/VoxelNoid/Battle Squadron/Atomic Bomberman. I have already tried the SPE optimized versions and compared them with the standard versions. It runs very well...

For more information and downloads please visit...

https://www.goldencode.de/?page=2

There is also a video on my YouTube channel.

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noXLar

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 2024/7/25 15:04 #92

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@Maijestro

sent u an update in your mail:)

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sailor

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/9 21:08 #93

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@eliyahu @DetordiggeiQuote:

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- Blender not working (Guru Meditation)

Blender should work fine.

If you have any differences between my lists and your own, let's investigate further.

http://eliyahu.org/tabor/tools.html
http://eliyahu.org/tabor/games.html

-- eliyahu

Blender problem is similar SObjs mess like with Wesnoth.

Latest Blender 248.7 from os4depot.net NOT works OOTB for me. It freezes.
I checked which .so are used ( thanks @Andy )


readelf -d bldyn



Dynamic section at offset 0xb007cc contains 38 entries:

Tag Type Name/Value

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbffmpeg.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libpthread.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libz.so.1]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbz2.so.1.0]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libexpat.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libfreetype.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libjpeg.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libpng12.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libdl.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libSDL-1.2.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libIlmImf.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libHalf.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libIlmThread.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libIex.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libImath.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libopenal.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libpython25.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libstdc++.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libgcc.so]

0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so]

- some of .so are in blender/sobjs directory
- libbz2.so from os4depot should be copied to blender/sobjs
- all other missing .so I copied from X1000 sys:sobjs
Unfortunatelly it still freezed.

- I copy all .so from list above from X1000 sys:sobjs to blender/sobjs to be sure to have original older versions.
Still freezes.

Finally I copy all X1000 sys:sobjs to blender/sobjs - not only those from readelf list, but all I have in X1000

After that it not freeze, but has error: cannot resolve symbol in Sys:SObjs/libgcc.so. Blender opens this libgcc.so from sys:sobj, even if it had in blender/sobjs/libgcc.so!!

Finally i backup Sys:SObjs/libgcc.so, and copied older libgcc.so from blender/sobjs to sys/sobjs.
And it works!!!

But - please, how I can check which from other .so are needed? It should be some which is not in the readelf list. Is possible, that some .so depends on some other.so?
I dont want have a pack of .so in blender/sobjs directory...

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AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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salass00

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/10 9:48 #94

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@sailor

You can use "readelf -d" on the shared object files as well to see what other shared objects they have been linked against.

mufa

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/23 10:51 #95

Not too shy to talk

@Detordiggei
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Update: AMIStore was crashing because I wasn't using a fixed IP, now it's working like a charm, this setting is preventing network related failures so far.

I am currently testing the A1222. I also had a problem with Amistore, swapping the driver from A-EON (A1222eth.device) with the one from Hyperion (p1022.eth.device) helped. Now Amistore also starts when DHCP is enabled

hlt

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/23 19:25 #96

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I wonder if we will ever get a properly working versions of Quake 1, Q2 and Q3 for A1222? Not a game-changer for this computer but would be great to have them working :)

Mr_byte

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/23 20:31 #97

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@hlt

Agreed. I am very curious about how a SPE version of a 3d accelerated version of quake will run...(or another "newer" real 3d fps game). I will gladly donate a larger sum than usual to those who can code it.

hlt

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/23 20:40 #98

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@Mr_byte

A1222 is available for quite some time and till now nothing happen :(

Mr_byte

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/23 20:51 #99

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@hl
@HunoPPC

Very few bought the SPE version of Wipeout from HunoPPC. So he didn't get much in return for it. But I will try to pull the load and have promised him a donation of 100 euros as a start if he makes an SPE version of Darkspaces (quake) or another quake version. And hopefully many more people will donate/buy if it gets a release, as everyone wants their system to run a 3D accelerated real 3D fps game as quake, quake2 or quake3.

hlt

Re: A1222Plus has a new home

Posted on: 1/24 12:51 #100

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@Mr_byte

I would gladly donate for working Quake ports for sure!

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