WebKit based browser initiative

@walkero

Sorry that you decided not to continue with the WebKit based browser initiative. I understand your reasons.

Cheers,
redfox

Sad news 😟

@thread

This is a trend that I hope the "powers that be" have noticed. We have a small number of talented developers, but that pool keeps growing smaller, many of which leave due to frustration over behavior of Hyperion or A-EON -r AmigaKit.

It is a classic case of being a "penny wise, pound foolish" when it comes to behavior over issues of control and ownership, driving away the people who do that actual work. And it drives away users as well. Every year at AmiWest I've attended we have a new list of things that have happened and people it drove away. If this continues the center cannot hold.

Just food for thought.

-- eliyahu

@eliyahu

Well said Eldee.

I am surprised I am still playing in this Next Gen Amiga sandbox to be truthful.

So many times I see things that frustrate me and I prepare to move on, but then stick around because of friendships I have found during my 15+ year stay here at the Amiga Island.

Problem is I hate Reality Shows and that is what this Amiga Island is, still, after all this time.

Sure, stuff happens, good and bad, but for every good thing that happens in our small world here, 2 bad things happen, and even though jokes about You Can't Kill Amiga are said, it is just that, becoming a bigger joke year after year, and joking in a sandbox that cats also use as a sandbox does get old scooping out the things that frustrate us users, good developers, and heck, anyone with common sense.

I have stuck around for friends like you and others I have met along the way but gather one day if we don't see some new paradigm shift for the better, one day I will close this chapter of my computing life and find a better island to call home.

TJ

* I will add, I no longer worry too much about the platform in terms of emotion side. I treat it as ONLY a hobby now, so it is what it is. I wish it had less drama and more good actions so everyone who likes the platform could have more fun but at the end of the day, I no longer worry about it. Other platforms keep me stoked and happy.

Sigh! More unnecessary drama...

@walkero

While I understand where you're coming from, I hope you'll change your mind. Maybe after taking a break.

Sure, some party might try to take the code for their own purposes, but we'd still end up with a newer web browser. The Amiga community could really use an updated browser...

Hans

@walkero


I too hope you change your mind.

I have embarked on the "learn to code" journey and with each day that passes, I appreciate more than I already did appreciate, what you coders do.

Although the basics are learned rather fast, digging deeper is a big task. All in a sudden I feel so dumb and un-intelligent.

Sometimes I really wonder how you people could achieve that level of brilliance.

Here on Amiga I get crashes, sometimes for no apparent reasons, and the full reboot each time due to the RadeonHD v5 or RadeonRX is really daunting and frustrating.

@Hans, I was digressing, so I cut the text I was about to post here about this, and I'll send you a message. And let me add thank your for the KeaSigmaDelta undertaking.

@Walkero, @kas1e and all the other excellent coders
Please don't give up, a least not until we know for certain how the OS4 ship will continue to sail. On my part, I hope Cloanto (the amiga parties), A-Eon, Hyperion and AmigaKit will kind of "fuse" or find a way to make this work. It is really beyond me, why the modus operandi of the politics in the big world, has to be applied in how things are handled in what Hyperion (Ben) themselves call a "Hobby OS".

Please also it is important to point out the things that are not ok, like the YAM thing.

Please let us all also consider that the people at AmigaKit might be stressed out too about having to run a commercial entity in the current situation. This does not make it ok to repeat mistakes, but hopefully they learn and improve.
And I am not writing it because of some fear of the leaving the scene, I just think they are people too, everyone "with their cross to drag".

I understand Amigakit, try to survive in a small market.
But now I use Amiga only for hobbies.
Use OS4 (X5000), Morphos (Minimac), Vampire, Raspberry, UAEs and Qemu.
The monopoly looking for Amigakit is wrong, because they kill the spirit of collaborators among the developers.
Nobody buys an Amiga product for the latest version of Yam or for the latest update of the old video game.
But it is possible that it does not acquire hardware software does not have software.
Now the collaboration is more important than before.

Now that the YAM issue has been somewhat resolved, I hope there has been a rethinking about the drop of the Odyssey development :-/

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+1 and Amigakit seriously are you with us or not

@ AmigaSociety

Only 15 years eh...that's like yesterday for most of us

@328gts

Yeh, 15 years in Amiga is like a total NEWB. haha

That is kind of sad at the same time as in some fields, 15 years means a very long time.

At least with Atari I can say it has been 45 years and as I depart this message...

Atari Rulez!

hahaha

TJ

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Oh TJ you know thems fighting words in these parts

@328gts

I often wear my Atari shirt at Amiwest.

Call that Brave or Insane or Both?

haha

TJ