OS4 & WarpOS!

Have question about wos emulation on OS4..all wos sw what i try not working on oS4..( final + july update) fxpaint,vhistudio,eart2140 (68k version work)...In libs I have powerpc.librayr v16.34 is this libs engouh for wos apps or I need some files and config? thx for helping!

@VooDoo

Quote:powerpc.library 16.34 only works with AmigaOS4 Update4. Unfortunately I didn't add a kernel version check in powerpc.library and a lot of people try to use it on newer versions of AmigaOS4 where it can't work
There is no public version of powerpc.library for newer versions of AmigaOS4.

@joerg

You mean that there is one newer version under beta testing?

@walkero

Quote:No.

@joerg

Quote:

I think that you should replace "can't work" with "does not work properly". As stated elseware, apart from the occasional crash, Heretic II and Wipeout 2097 run well on the July update.

It is only really for these two pieces of software that you need WarpOS support. I think Rogue said that there would be an OS4 native version of Shogo but not H2, and most other software already has a native version or there was a 68k build.

I think it would be nice to make the libraries available to Classic owners to run at their own risk.

Are there technical reason preventing WarpOS support ever working properly with OS4 or is it a question of priorities.

Is there any chance of releasing the source code so that others can pick up from where you left it.

@Rob

I am really missing this WarpOS support on OS 4.0 July update especially to play Payback demo!!

May we e-mail Hyperion to release a new version on future updates or to release the source code so someone can port
it to OS 4.0 Final?

@Rob

Quote:Even if there wouldn't be anything else in the old AmigaOne version of powerpc.library which makes it impossible to work on classic Amigas, with the current kernel, dos.library, etc., just the (re)mapping of the, on the AmigaOne non-existing, Chip RAM to normal RAM (workaround for a bug in Wipeout2097, it writes to address 0x001B0000 without even trying to allocate it) would very likely result in a nice crash firework on a classic Amiga

Quote:A complete WarpOS emulation, incl. it's kernel with own task scheduler, the mirror tasks/processes, replacement exec functions for the m68k parts of WarpOS software, etc., would be a lot of work, and very likely wouldn't even make much more, if any, WarpOS software work on AmigaOS4. I very much doubt anyone will ever try to implement something like that for AmigaOS4.

IIRC I fixed the bugs in my powerpc.library about 1 1/2 years ago, but since it's of course still as useless as the old versions were on old versions of AmigaOS4, or actually even more useless since current versions of AmigaOS4 catch much more bugs in broken software, I don't see any reason for releasing an update. AmigaOS4 Update3 and 4 didn't include Petunia yet and a WarpOS wrapper made sense since using the WarpOS versions of most applications was much faster than using the m68k versions with the interpreting m68k emulator, but since Petunia is included in AmigaOS4 it doesn't any more, there is next to no speed difference between running a m68k version with Petunia and a WarpOS version. In some cases like fxPaint on 750 CPUs the m68k version is even much faster than the WarpOS one.

There are no WarpOS-only applications which are worth to be emulated, at least I didn't find any, and for most games it was never really usable.

@MamePPCA1

Quote:Use the included m68k version of the Payback demo instead.

Quote:Don't waste their time with something like that, they don't have the sources.