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Problem trying to run OWB
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I have read and followed the OWB Installation Manual that Origin wrote, but am having a problem. I have skipped (for the moment) the optional section 2.5 installing fonts. I just want to see it working first. I believe that I have done everything else indicated in the manual. When I type "OWB" into a shell from the directory where OWB is located, a window comes up that is labeled "ELF Library" which contains the message "Unknown/unsupported Reloc". I'm guessing that this is trying to tell me that there is probably some other piece of software or library that is needed that I either do not have or is not up to date. Can someone please enlighten me?

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When I type "OWB" into a shell from the directory where OWB is located, a window comes up that is labeled "ELF Library" which contains the message "Unknown/unsupported Reloc". I'm guessing that this is trying to tell me that there is probably some other piece of software or library that is needed that I either do not have or is not up to date. Can someone please enlighten me?
OWB needs the current version of AmigaOS4, you don't have the July 2007 update installed, at least your elf.library.kmod is from an older version of AmigaOS4.

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I also have a problem getting OWB to start, but for me it just crashes with an ISI 80% of the times I try to start it.

I tried removing all .so files and installing the .so from OWB 1.21 and 1.24 but apparently more are lacking. Probably some from OS4 July, right?

But I used to have these, and I have the Cyberbit.ttf installed with typemanager. It still gives me an ISI (almost) everytime I try to start it and Snoopy doesn't report anything at all. I have removed cookies.

I start from the icon (WB) which is the original icon with 512k stack and no tooltypes changed.

Please help?

I have had it running, and the last time the ISI came after the window had opened. I seem to recall that the ISI is somewhere in the zero page. Those times I don't got an ISI at startup OWB run fine until I closed it.

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I also have a problem getting OWB to start, but for me it just crashes with an ISI 80% of the times I try to start it.
Please post a complete crashlog, or upload it to http://crashlog.os4depot.net/

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I tried removing all .so files and installing the .so from OWB 1.21 and 1.24 but apparently more are lacking. Probably some from OS4 July, right?
Some of the shared objects included in OS4 are required as well, for example libc.so, libstdc++.so and libpthread.so, but if one is missing you get an elf.library error requester, not a crash, and for example Python wont work any more either if you deleted the shared objects included in OS4.

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@joerg

Thankyou for answering!

I understand I break some other programs by removing the .sos, so I backed them up of course. Will reinstall only those three you mentioned and try again.

I'll post or upload a crashlog when I get home.

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Hi!

Now I posted a crashlog at OS4depot:
ID 48

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Now I posted a crashlog at OS4depot:
ID 48
It's similar to the problems Raziel has, it's executing random code instead of the correct function but in your case there aren't even any shared objects involved, the function it should have called is in the OWB executable itself. No idea why it doesn't work for 3 or 4 users

Please try if Python works, after reinstalling the shared objects included in OS4 you deleted, or if it crashes as well.

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I should note that all my SOs have the exact same md5sum as those of ZeroG (see the news on AW.net). I have all in SObjs: and none in the OWB dir. Perhaps we can rule out the SOs and go on to the toolbar images and fonts needed?? Something I should know??

I noticed that OWB v1.2x does not include the toolbar images, but I still have them in my OWB dir!

Python crashed with a DSI when I just executed "python" in a shell in ram: with the assign set.

It's a newlib crash. Do I need a newer OS4 beta newlib? It requires v3.9 but I have v52.33..?

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Crash log for task "python"
Generated by GrimReaper 52.3
Crash occured in module newlib.library.kmod at address 0x016032B8
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: 63308261 6148ABC0 4BFF85F9 63308261 00000000 6FFAA000 7DB90E8C 00000001
8: 69FED064 00000000 00A00000 63308261 48612048 62ECDD60 00000000 00000000
16: 7DAD80D0 7DAD8020 7DAD8600 00000003 00000000 68A41280 00000000 00000001
24: 01C0F35C 00000018 01C92810 65A02800 63308248 63308248 7DB90D50 6148ABD0


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 0 0 0
4: 0 0 0 0
8: 0 0 0 0
12: 1.45833 68.5417 0 0
16: 0 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0
24: 0 0 0 0
28: 0 0 0 0

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82024000


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0000F030
Condition (cr) : 0x48612048
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x016032B8
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x20000005
Count (ctr) : 0x01603248
Link (lr) : 0x7DC45880
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x40000000
Data Address (dar) : 0x00000000



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 015DCF48 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 6148DF58 008F2AD7 015DCF48 00000000 00000000 00000000 6FF901AC 6148DD98
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x016032B8 belongs to module "newlib.library.kmod" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000288f8
module python at 0x7DB90E8C (section 5 @ 0xB8E6C)
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b468
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x0001a7f8
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x0001ae2c
module python at 0x7DB90F9C (section 5 @ 0xB8F7C)
module python at 0x7DB91064 (section 5 @ 0xB9044)
module python at 0x7DB93D00 (section 5 @ 0xBBCE0)
module python at 0x7DB78228 (section 5 @ 0xA0208)
module python at 0x7DB77F68 (section 5 @ 0x9FF48)
module python at 0x7DB79980 (section 5 @ 0xA1960)
module python at 0x7DB78FE4 (section 5 @ 0xA0FC4)
module python at 0x7DB7889C (section 5 @ 0xA087C)
module python at 0x7DB78B2C (section 5 @ 0xA0B0C)
module python at 0x7DB428E0 (section 5 @ 0x6A8C0)
module python at 0x7DC070B8 (section 5 @ 0x12F098)
module python at 0x7DAE2FF4 (section 5 @ 0xAFD4)
module python at 0x7DB54C74 (section 5 @ 0x7CC54)
module python at 0x7DB50890 (section 5 @ 0x78870)
module python at 0x7DB52D34 (section 5 @ 0x7AD14)
module python at 0x7DB4C074 (section 5 @ 0x74054)
module python at 0x7DB75FF0 (section 5 @ 0x9DFD0)
module python at 0x7DB76910 (section 5 @ 0x9E8F0)
module python at 0x7DB77EEC (section 5 @ 0x9FECC)
module python at 0x7DB79980 (section 5 @ 0xA1960)
module python at 0x7DB78FE4 (section 5 @ 0xA0FC4)
module python at 0x7DB7889C (section 5 @ 0xA087C)
module python at 0x7DB78B2C (section 5 @ 0xA0B0C)
module python at 0x7DB428E0 (section 5 @ 0x6A8C0)
module python at 0x7DC070B8 (section 5 @ 0x12F098)
module python at 0x7DAE2FF4 (section 5 @ 0xAFD4)
module python at 0x7DB54C74 (section 5 @ 0x7CC54)
module python at 0x7DB50890 (section 5 @ 0x78870)
module python at 0x7DB52D34 (section 5 @ 0x7AD14)
module python at 0x7DB4C074 (section 5 @ 0x74054)
module python at 0x7DB75FF0 (section 5 @ 0x9DFD0)
module python at 0x7DB76910 (section 5 @ 0x9E8F0)
module python at 0x7DB77EEC (section 5 @ 0x9FECC)
module python at 0x7DB79980 (section 5 @ 0xA1960)
module python at 0x7DB78FE4 (section 5 @ 0xA0FC4)
module python at 0x7DB7889C (section 5 @ 0xA087C)
module python at 0x7DB78B2C (section 5 @ 0xA0B0C)
module python at 0x7DB428E0 (section 5 @ 0x6A8C0)
module python at 0x7DC070B8 (section 5 @ 0x12F098)
module python at 0x7DAE2FF4 (section 5 @ 0xAFD4)
module python at 0x7DAE3218 (section 5 @ 0xB1F8)
module python at 0x7DB7A0C4 (section 5 @ 0xA20A4)
module python at 0x7DB787B0 (section 5 @ 0xA0790)
module python at 0x7DB847A4 (section 5 @ 0xAC784)
module python at 0x7DB840D0 (section 5 @ 0xAC0B0)
module python at 0x7DB84134 (section 5 @ 0xAC114)
module python at 0x7DAD9250 (section 5 @ 0x1230)
module python at 0x7DAD86E0 (section 5 @ 0x6C0)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00000de4
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002348
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000026f4
module python at 0x7DAD813C (section 5 @ 0x11C)
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b468
native kernel module kernel+0x0003c528
native kernel module kernel+0x0004ef8c



PPC disassembly:
016032b0: 4182ffe4 beq+ 0x1603294
016032b4: 7d094378 mr r9,r8
*016032b8: 88090000 lbz r0,0(r9)
016032bc: 39290001 addi r9,r9,1
016032c0: 2f800000 cmpwi cr7,r0,0


The rest is probably as in my OS4depot log.

I did however not reboot after OWB crashed...

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Perhaps we can rule out the SOs and go on to the toolbar images and fonts needed??
OWB doesn't need any fonts (except for the DejaVu ones included in OS4) or images, the Aminet OWB 1.21 archive is complete and just extracting it, without installing anything, and starting OWB has to work.
(The only exception is curl-ca-bundle.crt which has to be in DEVS: to make SSL, i.e. https:// urls, work.)

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I noticed that OWB v1.2x does not include the toolbar images, but I still have them in my OWB dir!
There never were any toolbar images in OWB archives, if AISS is installed it's using the images from AISS (TBImages:home, TBImages:home_s, TBImages:home_g, etc.), if AISS isn't installed OWB uses text buttons instead.


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Python crashed with a DSI when I just executed "python" in a shell in ram: with the assign set.

It's a newlib crash. Do I need a newer OS4 beta newlib?
Of course not, the version of Python included in OS4 just needs the version of newlib.library included in the same OS4 release.

But the python crashlog makes no sense at all, c:python is a tiny executable with only about 1.6 KB code which just calls functions in libpython25.so but in your crashlog are offsets of over 1.1 MB from the start of the python executable!?

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It's similar to the problems Raziel has, it's executing random code instead of the correct function but in your case there aren't even any shared objects involved, the function it should have called is in the OWB executable itself. No idea why it doesn't work for 3 or 4 users


Just as an update:
I just changed my Vcore from 1.59V to 1.64V on my G4 7455 (933MHz 1.85V version, running at 866MHz) and now OWB 1.24 starts every time!!

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But the python crashlog makes no sense at all, c:python is a tiny executable with only about 1.6 KB code which just calls functions in libpython25.so but in your crashlog are offsets of over 1.1 MB from the start of the python executable!?


Now I get zero-page exceptions everytime I try to start python:

[Edit: Please do not post crash logs in the forum. Post them at http://crashlog.os4depot.net and then post a link to it here on amigans]


Edited by orgin on 2008/5/17 16:20:38
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Just a small update on this:
I *think* I get these ISIs on startup (either before or after the window has opened) if I move the mouse while it is starting!

Since I never start OWB from shell, but from the icon or IBrowse I tend to move the mouse after launching it.

I need to confirm this, but I did notice two crashes when I moved the mouse a lot, and one correct start when I didn't move the mouse at all.

First I thought it could have to do with if the mouse is over the window when it opens, but it leans towards mouse move instead perhaps....

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i have been a steady user of OWB for a while now but since the 2.11*/2.12 update it won't work anymore.

i have tried everything i could think of but i am in the need of help on this one.

Edit: Please do not post crash logs in the forum. use http://crashlog.os4depot.net


it just bombs after XXX seconds of waiting for it to load (after i start it), nothing shows other than the grim reaper.

was there something new with the latest updates that i didnt see?, like some new files etc or?

checked all over the place for new SDL/So. libs etc, nothing out that i know of..but then again i might be wrong.

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Edited by orgin on 2008/10/20 19:07:29
Edited by orgin on 2008/10/20 19:07:39
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hmm


tried the blastoise one too now, full ISI crash aswell.

wtf?

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It's similar to the problems Raziel has, it's executing random code instead of the correct function but in your case there aren't even any shared objects involved, the function it should have called is in the OWB executable itself. No idea why it doesn't work for 3 or 4 users


Add me too ;-/

http://crashlog.os4depot.net/cl83

It always happens when OS4 is executing for a while, and when you execute some operations while you open OWB...for example close IBrowse, chat with WookieChat etc...
I'm scared every way I launch OWB, because I know it could crash during loading...

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ok, forget it!, i reinstalled OS4.1 straight from the cd and now it worked fine again (OWB (both versions) so i guess either my hdd is screwing up or some beta file did all of this.

anyways, all ok now.

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t always happens when OS4 is executing for a while, and when you execute some operations while you open OWB...for example close IBrowse, chat with WookieChat etc...
I'm scared every way I launch OWB, because I know it could crash during loading...


Same stuff here. Usually after some networking in python I checked several times with no avail (and checking again atm). Here crashlog is 75.

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It starts without problems here, but it does freeze very often, 1 hour of continuous use would be unheard of. I don't have a lot of RAM, true, but there's usually over 90 MB available when I'm using OWB 2.19, or some of the slightly older ones.

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It starts without problems here, but it does freeze very often
Are you using AmigaOS 4.0? Other AmigaOS 4.0 users have the same problem, but I have no idea why it freezes, it doesn't on AmigaOS 4.1, and I currently don't have AmigaOS 4.0 installed to test it myself. It would help to know with which version of OWB exactly the problems started on AmigaOS 4.0.

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Yes, I use 4.0. I think I have had 2.15, 2.17, 2.18 and 2.19 installed each, maybe even ran them, but I can't say which it is and guessing isn't helping.

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