Latest News on Live 'C' Programming event in UK (for Complete Beginners)

@Mikey_C


We are not worthy!
We are not worthy!

@Chris

True! True!

All hail the OS4 Developers, Hallowed be thy name.


Forsake the false prophets of Amiga inc, for verily they shall leadeth to the valley of Evil hosted environments.

@Rudei.
Phew! Good Idea, but I fear that it will be a daunting task for mere "newbies"

@Mikey_C

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Ugh, really... don't... I don't like this..

About your question, the next update will be a complete set, i.e. an installation CD. Everything is going to be included.

@Rogue

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Great news!!

I can't wait.
Damn, I have to actually, don't I.

@Rogue

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Its meant in a light hearted manner Rogue.
In all seriousness though, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, We the many have never owed so much to the few

Thanks to all the OS4 Developers for all their efforts in keeping us alive.

As to the reply to your question, this is good news, it will enable us to move forward with one package on the day. Thank you.

Mikey C

@Mikey_C

Just so that people can see what they havent got, I have grabbed a pretty recent screenie :)

http://www.amiupdate.net/codebench3.jpg

Simon

@Rigo

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Interesting screenshot. That looks very useful. I know that now is not the best time to be asking for additional features, but are you considering integrating CVS/SVN support?

Hans

@Hans

Nothing planned for that for the initial release

Simon

@All

Now you all know why I have delayed the event.
- I believe Codebench will make introduction to programming a lot easier for the novice, of which I myself am one of.

Also, if we do go ahead with the live stream, everyone will be able to use the exact same package, without wondering what to press, or do next.

Thanks to Rigo for his wonderful solution.

@Rigo

Excelent!! Thank you very much for that app.

One question: is it for C programming exclusively or other languages can be used also (C++, Python,...)?

@emeck

CodeBench is plugin driven. The screen grab shows the source to the plugin that drives the environment for the AmigaOS4 SDK.

This is currently the only plugin in developement, but writing plugins for other languages shouldn't be too hard.

C/C++ is supported by the current SDK plugin, PERL, Python, Arexx etc should follow at some time in the future, although these may well be part of a commercial release.

The plan is to give away a version (somewhat limited, but not sure to what extent yet) with the SDK, and make a commercial version to purchase which will give you all the current, and maybe future plugins too.

Simon

@Mikey_C

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Sigh...
OS4 is an effort of more than 50 people, and no single person has any big impact on the thing. It's the combined effort of all people involved that makes OS4.

@Rigo

This is good news. Thanks for the info.

@Mikey_C

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So what will be the initial system requirements?

Will I have to have a clean SDK already installed?
Will I need some of the development support files from OS4Depot installed?

I don't mean to be able to use codepage, I mean for the programming session. It is probably too early for these type of questions, but they need to be thought about so that we can all bat from the same wicket.

@tfrieden

I Know! I know! It was meant as a light hearted comment. We are all aware that it is not just you and your brother, honest!

@Swoop

Erm....well, as you suggest, it is a bit early for all of these type of questions. A lot depends on the availability of the various pieces that will be required. It really depends on me getting CodeBench into a stable state to be used, it would be nice to be able to use an updated SDK, but that is not a requirement, the current SDK will do fine.

As for installation files, everything will be supplied either in the SDK (all the underlying programs needed are in there) or by CodeBench itself.

So no, there should be no need to go trawling around the internet looking for stuff.

All you need is an OS4 capable machine, a bit of time, and a willingness to learn.

Please, no-one ask what the subjects will be, that really hasn't even been discussed yet, but even a long day is not going to be enough time to tutor a newbie in the art of C and Intuition programming. It's highly likely the event will cover the basics of C, and how to use some of the more common systems, like DOS for file I/O etc.

The hardest part of learning a language (any language) is the syntax. If you've never done C before, trying to force feed you with a new language, and a host of Amiga API's will only confuse you.

Perhaps, if this event is successfull, we could arganise another to cover more advanced topics dealing with windows and buttons etc, but personally speaking I think (depending on the ratio of newbies) it might be better to use the day to introduce those to the C language, and all it's caveats.

Perhaps, once we get a bit nearer the time, a show of hands might give us an idea of the level we need to aim at...

Simon