At yesterday's ANT meeting, Chris Young demonstrated his early port of Netsurf for the Amiga.
Although it is still flakey and not complete, the executable is about 7mb in size and loads in under 3 seconds on OS4.x
Looking good so far, keep it up Chris!
Here are some early screenshots.
As always, donations are welcome as I am told they will provide "Motivation"
Your call guys
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Chris Y posted on ANT thread:
" Advantages * Very fast (much faster than OWB - speed seems comparable to AWebOS4 and starts up in a couple of seconds, and that's without any compiler optimisations) * Small footprint (executable is under 5MB when stripped, and memory usage is low - but I need to do some sort of quantitative measurement of that) * Supports CSS * Fully localisable * Multiple windows
Disadvantages * Core engine not as mature as (eg) OWB's, so some sites may render less correctly * No Javascript
Also it looks like secure sites aren't going to work in the port until I can compile against an openssl lib which works (ie. when I get an SDK which allows me to link against sobjs without whinging)
There are other port issues but mostly related to it being a work-in-progress. Obviously the interface isn't anywhere near the functionality of iBrowse or AWeb yet either.
Chris"
Edited by Mikey_C on 2008/8/11 11:47:08 Edited by Mikey_C on 2008/8/11 14:28:47
Mikey C
No cause is lost if there is but one fool left to fight for it.
What an attitude is that?! It's nice to have several browser to chose from and this browser seems to live up to the amiga spirit . This is great, can't wait to use it
It's a shame theres no tabs though. I wonder if theres a way to create "fake tabs". CubicIDE has a separate window for each file, but it has a tabbed display at the top of each window. If all the windows are the same size and its on its own screen, you dont really realise that its faked the tabs. And its a perfectly good solution I think.
I heard somewhere that javascript support is being worked on. I think it was on an aw.net thread. Chris, can you tell us what Netsurf's roadmap has in store regarding javascript?
Here's my call...I think it comes from an old Russian proverb: "Fool me once; shame on me, Fool me twice and shame on you!''
Amizilla sucker punched me , and Spunik sucker punched me. I finally got wise: when OWB came-by, I just kept waving bye-bye! (Sorry, Joerg)
You want money, don't beg for it with half ass efforts. Develope the browser on your time and sell it to me on my time! IBrowse done it that way, why can't you? (my impersonation of a Piers Morgan)
"Fool me once; shame on me, Fool me twice and shame on you!''
I think you got that round the wrong way
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You want money, don't beg for it with half ass efforts. Develope the browser on your time and sell it to me on my time! IBrowse done it that way, why can't you?
This no no "half-ass" effort. The "Featured Donations" initiative is a chance for the community to show their appreciation to the devlopers that are still producing software. There has been no mention of money from Chris regarding NetSurf. As far as getting "sucker-punched" in previous projects, well, shame on you, no-one is forcing you to donate to anything.
Personally, I applaud Chris for spending his time to benefit the Amiga community, well done to him!
I saw something about tabs being checked in to one of the branches. tbh, due to the way the rendering is done adding tabs purely in my code should be simple (supporting both multiple windows and tabs might be more difficult though)
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jahc wrote: I heard somewhere that javascript support is being worked on. I think it was on an aw.net thread. Chris, can you tell us what Netsurf's roadmap has in store regarding javascript?
According to the roadmap, it relies on DOM which is "just started". Information here. I'm sure they won't argue if anybody wants to help implement it.
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DBAlex wrote: Why is the font so small though? Heh.
Looks good though, just need a basic GUI, I'm sure thats being worked on though.
There is a basic GUI, but Mikey doesn't have AISS installed and obviously missed me telling everybody to assign TBImages: to resources.
The small font is because I'm just taking the CSS font size and translating it directly to Amiga font size. Scalable fonts always come out smaller than the number of pixels they are suppoed to occupy, for some reason. There is a minimum font size that can be specified but I'm ignoring that for the moment.
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Snuffy wrote:
You want money, don't beg for it with half ass efforts. Develope the browser on your time and sell it to me on my time! IBrowse done it that way, why can't you?
That's up to you, but I assure you it exists and will be free. I'll probably release a preview version once the major problems are solved (there is one major issue and a few more minor ones I'd like to sort out first)
Wish I had an OS4 machine & could help on this... even if I'm somewhat not familiar with porting... maybe i'll have a stab at installing NetSurf on Ubuntu tonight.
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