OS4 Classic remake

It has been quite a long time since I used OS4 Classic. I had some problem with stability with the networkcard and when data was transfered I got a strange crashes, even when using the new RTL8029 driver.

I dont know if it is the driver that causes it or if my NIC isnt compatible enough..

MY question is.. Is it possible to do a "remake" of the original OS4 Classic cd and merge february update into it.. Is it possible to make a new Boot-disk with the latest rom-update?

Anyway, I am gonna try to reinstall it all with a new harddrive..

Thanks in advance..

The networkcard I am using is a "Group-tek 9821" with RTL9029AS onboard chip

@Alkaron

Are you using the updated drivers? The original CD had faulty network drivers on it (was my fault, sorry) but there was a quick update shortly after release with updated drivers. I think it's available at Hyperions website in the restricted area.

@Cyborg

...rd and when data was transfered I got a strange crashes, even when using the new RTL8029 driver...

@Alkaron

Quote:

I assume you meant RTL8029AS?

@Alkaron

I think the following should work.

Copy your OS4 CD to a directory, copy over the components from the update, making sure all occurances of the older components are updated.

Then use AmiDVD to burn it to CD, making it bootable.

@Cyborg

Yes! My mistake..

@Alkaron

ok. Can you please test again and send me the crashlog?

@Cyborg

I dont get a crashlog, the system doesnt "Crash" in regular meaning... The GUI seems to lock, I cant press any icons or write anything in f.i. Wookiechat, but I can still move the mousepointer and the harddrive seems to be working...

@Alkaron

Do a softreset (CTRL-AMIGA-AMIGA), when the system is up again open a shell and type
dumpdebugbuffer ram:crashlog.txt

@Alkaron

Please try what ZeroG suggested, maybe there is something in the log which could help.

Other than that i can't help you now. I'll try to reproduce your problem with some of the betatesters and hopefully fix it. But please note: i'm only the developer/maintainer of those drivers, if and when they will be released as an update or something isn't up to me, but of course i'll try to find a way.

So i have to ask you for yet a little bit more patience..

Ill try do as suggested, I will reinstall OS4 Classic today on an empty harddrive with the February update.. And Ill come back to you with a crashlog later on..

Ok! I have reinstalled OS4 and uppdated with February updates.. The problem still is there, from time to time.. sometimes he can go for several hours and sometimes just a few minutes..

PCIGraphics.card: LibInit(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9500 Pro (0x1002:0x4144)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9700 Pro (0x1002:0x4145)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9700 Pro (0x1002:0x4146)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9800 (0x1002:0x4148)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9800 (0x1002:0x4149)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9600 Pro (0x1002:0x4150)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9600 Pro (0x1002:0x4151)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9600 (0x1002:0x4152)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon AIW 8500 DV (0x1002:0x4242)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9000 (0x1002:0x4964)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9000 (0x1002:0x4965)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9000 (0x1002:0x4966)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9000 (0x1002:0x4967)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9700 Pro (0x1002:0x4E44)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9700 Pro (0x1002:0x4E45)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9600 (0x1002:0x4E46)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9800 (0x1002:0x4E48)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9800 (0x1002:0x4E49)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9800 XT (0x1002:0x4E4A)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 7200 (0x1002:0x5144)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon (0x1002:0x5145)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon (0x1002:0x5146)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon (0x1002:0x5147)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 (0x1002:0x5148)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 (0x1002:0x5149)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 (0x1002:0x514A)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 (0x1002:0x514B)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 LE (0x1002:0x514C)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9100 (0x1002:0x514D)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 8500 LE (0x1002:0x514E)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 7500 (0x1002:0x5157)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 7500 (0x1002:0x5158)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 7000 (0x1002:0x5159)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 7000 (0x1002:0x515A)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9250 (0x1002:0x5960)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9200 (0x1002:0x5961)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9200 (0x1002:0x5962)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9200 SE (0x1002:0x5964)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon X300 SE (0x1002:0x5B60)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9200 M (0x1002:0x5C61)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon 9200 M (0x1002:0x5C63)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Radeon M9 Lf (0x1002:0x5C63)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Voodoo Banshee (0x121A:0x0003)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Voodoo 3 (0x121A:0x0005)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Found Voodoo 3 (0x121A:0x0005)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Voodoo 4/5 (0x121A:0x0009)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Permedia 2 (0x3D3D:0x0007)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Permedia 2 (0x104C:0x3D07)
PCIGraphics.card: ScanCards(): Looking for Permedia 2V (0x3D3D:0x0009)
PCIGraphics.card: LibOpen(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Setting up card 1: Voodoo 3
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Exiting, returning 1
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): '3dfxVoodoo.chip' found resident
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): '3dfxVoodoo.chip' opened
MemoryBase @ 0xAC000000
MemorySize = 33554432
MemoryIOBase @ 0xAE000000
RegisterBase @ 0x0000FE00
ROMBase @ 0x3FEE3000
PCIGraphics.card: Calling 3dfxVoodoo.chip's InitChip method
3dfxVoodoo.chip: x86 BIOS ROM found
3dfxVoodoo.chip: Found 16384 KB framebuffer (8 x 16 Mbit chipsets)
PCIGraphics.card: Result: 1
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): Exiting, returning 1
[scsi.device] Found "ATAPIismajik" module and a drive attached to the second IDE port
of an IDEFix IDE port doubler or compatible hardware.
No SOLO_ONE found!
PCIGraphics.card: LibInit(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: LibOpen(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Setting up card 1: Voodoo 3
PCIGraphics.card: FindCard(): Exiting, returning 1
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): Entered
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): '3dfxVoodoo.chip' found resident
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): '3dfxVoodoo.chip' opened
MemoryBase @ 0xAC000000
MemorySize = 33554432
MemoryIOBase @ 0xAE000000
RegisterBase @ 0x0000FE00
ROMBase @ 0x3FEDE000
PCIGraphics.card: Calling 3dfxVoodoo.chip's InitChip method
3dfxVoodoo.chip: x86 BIOS ROM found
3dfxVoodoo.chip: Found 16384 KB framebuffer (8 x 16 Mbit chipsets)
PCIGraphics.card: Result: 1
PCIGraphics.card: InitCard(): Exiting, returning 1
[scsi.device] Found "ATAPIismajik" module and a drive attached to the second IDE port
of an IDEFix IDE port doubler or compatible hardware.
No SOLO_ONE found!

@All

This report is after whats normally happens.. I write one line in f.i. wookiechat, press return, and then the gui locks.. Tunenet still plays music, clock still ticking, but I couldnt press any icons, nor write anything .. Harddrive seems to be working normal..

@Alkaron

I get this problem on OS4.0 AmigaOne version too.

Usually it is caused by a program that has overwritten memory - hence the random nature of the freezes.

It'll be a pain to track down, but if it is pretty common you could try running MemGuard - that should trap any bad memory writes and throw you a Grim Reaper instead with a stack trace for the faulty app.

Chris

@Chris

Hmmm I have tried that little tool.. It seems to make the system more stable, but the problem is still there.. I am going back to OS3.9 for a while now..

@Alkaron

Ok, while the logs are unfortunately useless, just to be sure: The lockups only occurr if you're using rtl8029.device?

If so, there is probably something which makes rtl8029.device stay in its interrupt handler.. which would explain the described behaviour but which would also be very weird as there are other reports of beta testers that rtl8029 is working fine..

In any case, i'm working on it.. there are some issues left i have to resolve and considering my limited time it can take a while. Sorry.

@Cyborg

No! I am not sure anymore, that it is the RTL driver, it might very well be something else too...

But mostly it happens when I am online and surfing the net, but it has happened with requesters f.i. who isnt using the network..

@Alkaron

Ok, so it isn't sure its rtl8029 at all.. well, i changed the topic of this thread back to its original to reflect this.

Nevertheless i'm working on an improved version of rtl8029.device which will hopefully make it for the next OS update.