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Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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...what will happen?

Will Amiga Inc. pay to own AOS4.x outright? Hyperion Ent. would then have to go about doing something else. Inconceivable, really, on both counts.

Will they just raise the per copy AOS4.x license fee, and allow Hyperion Ent. free reign to do as they please with the source code? (In which case, Amiga Inc. would also get a copy of the source code to modify and recompile for whatever they want.)

Are there any other options? I can't think of any.

I think as there's only what seems to be 2 options, that the meeting is useless.

I am not trying to torpedo the mediation, just that I can't see any kind of resolution as AI is totally ass stubborn.

Personally, I feel that Hyperion did the right thing just releasing AOS4.1 for Sam440EP, and they should find anything else they can recompile for, hopefully a 1.7 GHz G4 motherboard or better. They should have gone ahead and done it many months ago. I'm quite certain that continuing with the trial will just conclude that Hyperion own all that they claim they do, 100%, lock, stock and barrel, anyhow.


Hyperion should counter sue AI for loss and stalling of sales opportunities. I'm sure more can be thrown into the counterclaim as well.

What a total waste of the court's time!

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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Meeting starts in 26 Hrs, 55 mins.



The clock on the Amigans.net server is a little more than 12 minutes fast.

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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I hope something positive comes out of this meeting.

Ideally Amiga Inc agrees to sell Amiga.com and all Amiga related trademarks to Hyperion for a fair price.

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Amiga Inc can't be in the business to sell software but what they do to earn money I don't know.
They would need new products and a much larger catalog if they where going to sell software for a living.

They released AA2 and since then we heard nothing. They are not trying to push AA2 at all and to be honest AA2 doesn't seem to have much to offer.

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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@Troels

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They released AA2 and since then we heard nothing.


They *released* ?? When ?? They annouced, yeah but released ? I don't see any evidence of this, only some big talks and promises from a fake CEO in some YouTube videos...

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@Troels
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AA2 doesn't seem to have much to offer

I looked that AA2 SDK and their programming "language"/system looks quite simple (but powerful). Google Android uses Java and Java looks very complicated to newbies or people who can't use anything more complicated than Basic. But AA2 is simple and you have to write very few lines of code to make a fully working game f.ex. They have (had when I looked) some things missing but when it's finished it's not bad. It's much better than Android f.ex. IMHO.

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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It's 9:46 a.m. in Seattle Wa., USA

And the world waits with baited breath!!!!!

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You gone Blue yet?

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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....^.......&...#...*...huh? wha? oh. gasp...(breathe...breathe...breathe)

Oh hi Mikey_C, where'd the time and light and time go?


- edit - Oh..... what you say??? B L U E!!?!?! (that's pretty low )

(I must still be woosey not having noticed that! )

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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IIRC you had to sign an NDA to get the AA2 SDK. Dunno if that is still the case, but it seems the best way to keep AA2 'the world's best kept secret'...

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IIRC you had to sign an NDA to get the AA2 SDK

No. Somebody posted a direct hyperlink to that file in AW.net. I downloaded it without signing anything. And it looks there's some tools (don't remember exactly, was there gcc) which might be under GPL, so if there's any GPL stuff then it should be freely available to everybody. The most of the stuff in that SDK uses Mingw on Winblows. Only a couple of executables are Winblows executables but you can run them fine with Wine.

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Re: Thu. Nov. 20th, 2008. So?.... (The AI/HE Court Mediation)
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Yes and all those that signed an NDA to get the SDK released plenty of AA2 softwares so that when you go out in town everyone knows what AA2 is
The SDK is one thing but did they released AA2 itself ? Nobody saw it except in those youtube videos..

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