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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/14 20:14 #81

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@Hans

You're my hero

Awsome work,

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/14 21:23 #82

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@Antique

Mine too (I think Helgis would love it)

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/15 19:03 #83

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@orgin

Maybe this sound little bit... insane at this stage... but what about a hardware acceleration of "HD - video stuff".

From my knowledge ATI has great hardware support for Blue-Ray movies, and usage of the CPU is going down to 1-3% when you play Blue-Ray/DVD movies... I can be mistaken so don't kick me to much ;)

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/16 10:27 #84

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Have you seen this image ? an image is better than thousands words

http://hdrlab.org.nz/milestone-one-a- ... -driver-for-amiga-os-4-x/

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/16 15:57 #85

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Kreciu wrote:
@orgin

Maybe this sound little bit... insane at this stage... but what about a hardware acceleration of "HD - video stuff".

From my knowledge ATI has great hardware support for Blue-Ray movies, and usage of the CPU is going down to 1-3% when you play Blue-Ray/DVD movies... I can be mistaken so don't kick me to much ;)

ATI hardware has the ability to aid video decoding. However, the developer documentation of those features are not open. I could always ask AMD very nicely if I could have the documentation (after signing an NDA, of-course). However, there is no guarantee that I'll get them.

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/16 19:55 #86

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@Hans

We need to collect like 1000 amigausers with signatures and "force" them ;).

Maybe 10000 :D

EDIT: Thanks for developing this drivers, but please do not forget about taking ALL the potential of existing hardware.

Radeon 7000 or9000 series is really great piece of hardware. Amiga could benefit from well made driver with full support from that site.

I'm not saying that "new" hardware is not needed but... :D.

I'm talking from the site of the common user.

Edited by Kreciu on 2008/10/16 21:50:00

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/17 22:59 #87

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If i'm not mistaken Rogue said in this very thread that a driver for the RV3xx cards is already being worked on

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/17 23:56 #88

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Quote:

Kreciu wrote:

EDIT: Thanks for developing this drivers, but please do not forget about taking ALL the potential of existing hardware.

Radeon 7000 or9000 series is really great piece of hardware. Amiga could benefit from well made driver with full support from that site.

I'm not saying that "new" hardware is not needed but... :D.

I'm talking from the site of the common user.

Why would I work on Radeon 7000/9000 drivers? I am not involved in development of drivers for the Radeon 7000 or 9000. That's not my responsibility and, if I tried to do everything, I'd never finish anything.

I'm working on R5xx/R6xx drivers because I want a graphics card that has shaders, etc. I will not be working on older cards.

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/10/18 1:38 #89

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I fully support you in that. Why work on old drivers when you can try to work on some new?

X5000

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 15:58 #90

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how is the work going on ?

iff wee just had pci-e slot
the world wourd have beeen bigger

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 17:28 #91

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Hi @Hans

Right now, no-one's written a VESA driver for OS4 (at least there isn't one released yet). If someone wrote such a driver, there wouldn't be an issue. IIRC, this is what Scitech's SNAP driver was supposed to do.

I was curious about what happened when I switched from AGP to PCI. I removed the 7000 AGP card and installed the 9250 PCI and booted-up without any other changes. I guess the Radeon driver in Kickstart recognized the Radeon new card and made the switch. The screenmodes in the Devs/Monitor were automatically changed to 9250. So, why is there a AGP/PCI option in UBoot?

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 18:59 #92

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@Kreciu

If i'm not mistaken Rogue said in this very thread that a driver for the RV3xx cards is already being worked on

That is correct. I didn't have much time lately to look at it though.

Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 20:05 #93

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Consider please:

- speed of graphic card development?
- speed of the Amiga games/programs development which require shaders?
- tomorrow there will be new graphic card slot etc. but don't forget the newest "AmigaOS ready" hardware have... PCI from 1993.
- speed of development of ANY thing for AmigaOS?

Tell me what I can do with drivers for AmigaOS4.x which support shaders?

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 22:27 #94

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@Antique

Consider please:

- speed of graphic card development?

It's pretty full steam ahead, so sooner or later Radeon 9xxx cards are going to become harder to find.

Quote:

- speed of the Amiga games/programs development which require shaders?

The speed of development will be zero if shaders aren't supported at all.

Quote:

- tomorrow there will be new graphic card slot etc. but don't forget the newest "AmigaOS ready" hardware have... PCI from 1993.

I have a Radeon 2400 pro PCI card in my Amigaone, so it is possible to stick one of these in an existing Amiga.

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- speed of development of ANY thing for AmigaOS?

Which, IMHO, makes it worth trying to skip some of the inbetween developments, and go straight for the latest stuff.

Quote:

Tell me what I can do with drivers for AmigaOS4.x which support shaders?

If you're a software developer, write games/demos that take advantage of this new feature. We could then port Torque Game Engine Advanced, and/or C4-Engine which will be instrumental in people writing/porting games to the Amiga.

I should point out that no-one has stopped developing the R1xxx to R3xx drivers just because I started working on a R5xx+ one. That is continuing. The OS4 dev. team will continue to improve them. However, there is no point in me helping them out; that would only slow things down.

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/12 22:33 #95

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Hi @Hans

Right now, no-one's written a VESA driver for OS4 (at least there isn't one released yet). If someone wrote such a driver, there wouldn't be an issue. IIRC, this is what Scitech's SNAP driver was supposed to do.

I was curious about what happened when I switched from AGP to PCI. I removed the 7000 AGP card and installed the 9250 PCI and booted-up without any other changes. I guess the Radeon driver in Kickstart recognized the Radeon new card and made the switch. The screenmodes in the Devs/Monitor were automatically changed to 9250. So, why is there a AGP/PCI option in UBoot?

If you have two graphics cards plugged in, it switches which one UBoot is displayed on (i.e., which graphics card is first in the list).

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/14 22:37 #96

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how is the work going on ?

iff wee just had pci-e slot
the world wourd have beeen bigger

I missed this post. Basically, I'm waiting for my hardware to be shipped to me in New Zealand (just moved back home from Canada), so I can't do anything until it arrives.

BTW, people can check up on progress by looking at the RadeonHD development log on my website. It also has an RSS feed for those that use them.

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/15 13:29 #97

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Any idea when and under what conditions you will share your work with us?

I am only waiting for the Sam440ep-flex to be on sale and will need a gfx-card for it.
And before that I could use that card in my A1.

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/16 10:39 #98

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Any idea when and under what conditions you will share your work with us?

I am only waiting for the Sam440ep-flex to be on sale and will need a gfx-card for it.
And before that I could use that card in my A1.

To be honest, I haven't quite decided how and when I'll release copies into the wild. Most likely I'll have OS4 beta testers test it first before a wider release. I would personally prefer to have hardware accelerated 2D working before handing out an alpha copy for others to try.

For now, I can't give any release dates. I can say that there is an issue with UBoot's initialization of these cards (due to the PCI-PCI bridge) that needs to be dealt with first before these cards can be used.

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Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/16 13:01 #99

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>Most likely I'll have OS4 beta testers test it first
>before a wider release.

That's fine with me then.

Any recommendations then what card to get?
Or will any card help?

Rudolph

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2008/12/16 20:42 #100

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>Most likely I'll have OS4 beta testers test it first
>before a wider release.

That's fine with me then.

Any recommendations then what card to get?
Or will any card help?

Rudolph

I'm trying not to encourage people to go out and buy one already since they can't use them yet. However, right now I only have complete documentation for the R5xx series cards, not the R6xx. Therefore 2D acceleration will come first for the Radeon X1300 and X1550. The RadeonHD 2400 pro will have to wait until AMD releases the docs and/or example code.

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