apps wishlist for AmiCygnix

@samo79

Thanks for the informations! Didn't know that

@cygnusEd

xmms is a classic music player for linux that has plugins for all imaginable formats.
i bet it handles real audio.

@cygnusEd

You are welcome, now try to port it

@spotUP

All of the RealAudio players that I have ever seen for Linux are closed source.

@cygnusEd

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Totem seems to do that.

@emeck

Totem uses GStreamer and Xine-lib plugins. I'm not sure that all of the plugins for those formats are open-source. If they are, they may be illegal in some countries. Even if they are legal, that doesn't mean they will all work on big-endian PowerPC chips.

Generally RealAudio is available in a closed-source player format with lots of patents and DRM which makes writing a legal player requires an expensive license from Real Networks (I think that's the company name) and doesn't work very well under Linux from what I've heard.

@Samurai_Crow

Oh, then it could require a lot of work and then the trouble of the patents. And what about Helix Player? It seems Real Networks is involved in its development and is open source. But don't known if it does stream RA.

@emeck

Helix Player might work. It lists the licenses of the player on the Wikipedia article. If it's legal, then maybe it would do the job. Thanks emeck.

@Samurai_Crow

You are welcome.
I've just installed Helix Player for Linux. I'll see later if I can listen real audio streamed somewhere.

@spotUP

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Had a look at the sources and seems not to support real audio .

@cygnusEd

How about PySol? (solitaire)

@OldAmigan

Any site that you use to listen streamed real audio? So far the ones I've tried don't work with Helix Player under Linux. It just quits. Hope it can be ported and be more useful under AmiCygnix.

@cygnusEd
Regarding AmiCygnix performance on Sam440, the main speed problem seems to be scrolling - you can see the CPU redrawing the bitmap at the new position. Same goes dragging windows in AmiCygnix.

If AmiCygnix could somehow use blitter-like operations (i.e let the gfx card do the work rather than the CPU), then I think AmiCygnix would be really FAAAAAST.


A secondary, more minor problem is that you can see large parts of GUI (in AbiWord) refreshing when you do something like type text. Ideally it would avoid refreshing stuff it doesn't need to, but I guess this is a problem with the design of AbiWord, and not easily solved.

@emeck

Yeah, I listen to BBC radio. It now uses BBC iPlayer, but I think it still gives the option to listen using a stand-alone version of Real Player.
I thought Helix Player was a Linux version of that (which, of course, will mean it will have restrictions)

Edit: Just looked at the Wikipedia on Helix, it appears to be part open source and part restricted source

(The code is released in binary and source code form under various licenses, notably the proprietary RealNetworks Community Source License and the free and open source software RealNetworks Public Source License. Additionally, the Helix DNA Client and the Helix Player are licensed under the popular GNU General Public License (GPL) free and open source license.

Use of the RDT, the default proprietary Real data transport, and of the RealVideo and RealAudio codecs requires binary components distributed under the Helix DNA Technology Binary Research Use License.)

FFMpeg (also MPlayer, VLC and anything using the library) now reimplement rv10, 20, 30 & 40 (i.e all realvideo/audio flavours up to "real 10").

Hi @RacerX
How about PySol? (solitaire)
It's a Python application not an X11 app. No, it won't work OS4 Python because we don't have the needed modules like Tkinter. See:
http://pygames.sourceforge.net/README.SOURCE

@RacerX

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As Snuffy said, there is no Tcl/Tk or GTK module for Python available yet. So there is no way to port it at the moment.


@ChrisH

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Yes, I agree, the server needs blitter support. I'm working on it and maybe I get some help.

The second problem I cannot solve. It's up to the GTK team to solve this. But I'm afraid they wont, because on a linux system this is no problem.

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Great to hear that.

@OldAmigan
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Thanks. I've tried it but gives me "Segmentation fault" and Helix Player closes. If it can/is ported to AmiCygnix, I hope it works better

@emeck

Maybe I'm wrong, but Helix Player seems to work only on Symbian systems. How can AmiCygnix help here?