Increasing OWB font sizes [solved]

I've found a great site for downloading freeware "legacy" fonts (And others too, but I only wanted the windows ones, such as Verdana, times new roman, etc). If anyone wants to check it out, it has EVERY standard windows font you'll need I think!
http://www.free-fonts-ttf.org/true-ty ... -italic-8562-download.htm

But getting back on topic.. these icon tooltype values look good as they are:
FONTXDPI=84
FONTYDPI=84

.. but they're a little too small for my eyes. I always increase my font sizes in my browsers..... I'm trying to get OWB to match my Firefox screen atm (which has increased sizes too). But if I increase those xdpi values, they get bigger, but they get chunky/thick/semi-bold and still kinda hard on my eyes. They're sensitive to the tiniest thing these days.

I downloaded on the fonts on OS4 and installed them properly with Typemanager.. they look good in the Sample windows. Even with bold turned on.

FONTXDPI=98
FONTYDPI=98
.. This size looks good. But like I said,the thickness of the text..........

I'm willing to try anything. Hit with your suggestions guys.. this is my main browser on Amiga now, so it'll be cool to perfect it to my own needs.

@jahc

MINFONTSIZE=10
FONTXDPI=93
FONTYDPI=90
UNICODEFONT=Bitstream Cyberbit

@sundown

No that size is too small, and it still looks terrible..

I already had the MINFONTSIZE set to 11 or a similar value..

@jahc

I figured it out!

I played with the auto hinter in Typemanager for the Verdana font.. found the light one I liked.... then I set the OWB tooltype to use FONTHINTER=1 (which was the first entry in the hinter cycle gadget in the Typemanager prefs).. this is the result!

old chunky style:
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/problem/1.png

new slim style:
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/problem/2.png

I have my thin fonts now, and I learned a little more about the os4 font system!

EDIT: Oh, I will tweak it a little more to make the dpi settings look nicer. But thats basically the size I want and already use on the PC :)

@jahc

Could you please post what tooltypes you set finally to match your firefox system?

@Raziel

MY firefox has been modified heavily, so that its a lot easier on my eyes.... But I downloaded all the fonts I needed from that site listed above:

Courier_New.ttf
Courier.ttf
Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf
Times_New_Roman_CE.ttf
Times_New_Roman.ttf
Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf
Verdana_Bold.ttf
Verdana_Italic.ttf
Verdana.ttf

then used:
MINFONTSIZE=10
FONTXDPI=98
FONTYDPI=98
FONTKERNING
FONTHINTER=1

And makes it match MY pc's setup fairly closely.. although some sites just look a bit odd. Amigaworld.net could look a little better for instance. But just compare my two screenshots and you'll see the difference between using chunky anti aliasing, and thinner anti aliasing..

EDIT: you may need to use these settings in your Typemanager prefs? click on the font, then click modify, then choose the Hinter..
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/problem/hinter.png

EDIT2: Ah, amigaworld.net uses Arial which looks not as good on my setup with FONTHINTER=1 .. I need to play with it some more.

P.S. sorry if the things I've typed are a little inaccurate..

@jahc

Quote:To use the font hinters configured in TypeManager you have to use FONTHINTER=0 in OWB.
That way you can use different hinters for the different fonts, and since it depends on the font which of the 4 hinters looks best you have more control that way, for example you can use another one for Arial.

With FONTKERNING enabled the texts look better, but since text input doesn't work correctly with it, the cursor is often at the wrong offset (not only with my AmigaOS 4.x OWB font implementation, it's the same with the libfreetype one), it's better not to enable it.

@joerg

thanks for the suggestion!

for now though, I've renamed arial to arial2, and copied verdana as arial.. so that way my favourite font can be used in most places.

http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/problem/verdana_owb.png

@jahc

cheers for that jahc, now OWB is easier to read ( Oh I'd hate to be old like Mikey_C )