Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!

@rouge

is it difficult (after a successul firefox port) also to port thunderbird?

If not another bounty is maybe worthwhile?

Thanks for porting firefox!

nexus

@Rogue

Amizilla people have already begun discussing about transfering the %25 of the bounty to the Timberwolf bounty (as long as the sources are released...)

I am an OS3 person... However I am really proud of the developments on OS4 and respect the developers...

I don't understand why there shoud be a division or war between the people in the same community... Ain't we all "Amigans"...

I've painted temporary icons for your project...
Until Ken and Mason paints greater ones, you can use these...


TimberWolfIcons.lha

Please take these as a sign of respect and good will...

Keep up the good work...

@Rogue

just a curiosity , (as you told about speed improvments), has been added in video driiver the hardware support for the video playback ? sorry i don't know the exact name, but i know that radeon gfx card ( maybe also nvidia ) has hw accelleration for video playback.. this could be usefull for programs like dvplayer or mplayer..

Thanks

@Alpyre

Which sources going to be released is clearly stated in the Bounty Project description.

And for the discussion...i don't think the Bros. do it for the money

Neat icon, btw, could you do one a little bigger? 32 pixels, maybe?

@Frieden brothers,

Thank you.

Your work is really appreciated.

[Edited for typo]

@Rogue

Hi Hans-Joerg

Here is some sample code which shows the speed difference between clipped and unclipped Cairo operations. It's a little contrived and does half a millionn operations to exaggerate the problem.

The source and a ready-created executable is in the archive.

Here is the output I get:
took 26 secs (with clipping & with rectangles)
took 19 secs (without clipping & with rectangles)
took 7 secs (with clipping & without rectangles)
took 0 secs (without clipping & without rectangles)

As you can see, it is taking seven seconds to set the clipping for these operations, no matter whether anything is being drawn or not. In real-life situations this is clearly visible (even with what I suppose is much less than 500 000 operations). As I said, I can compile NetSurf here with full Cairo support, and I have been able to prove it is the clipping which makes it unuseable in that configuration. I can provide binaries of this if you wish to test for yourself.

Regards
Chris

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On further investigation, it apepars that the slowness stems from the cairo_rectangle() between cairo_reset_clip() and cairo_clip(). I don't understand why this is here (copied from gtk code), but if I take it out then Cairo fails to draw anything.

Perhaps you can explain why this is the case and/or have a workaround which doesn't involve calling a slow function on every clip set?

Chris

@Antique

Quote:

If you mean by plugins the add-ons for Firefox, they should work unless they require OS-specific version (for example, PicLens will require a specific OS).

Plugins like a flash player will be a high priority to get working after the original browser runs.

@nexus

It should be possible to port Thunderbird and Sunbird and the Seamonky suite after Firefox, the base facilities are there. It will be work, but not as much as the initial port.

@Alpyre

Nice icon :) Thanks!

I'm afraid that a release of the source code is very unlikely at this stage, even more so considering the reactions on AW.net.

@Chris

I ran the test on my machine and get 6, 4, 3 and 0 seconds... so I would say yes, there is an improvement :)

@DAX

If i didnt welcome you before i say it now. Welcome. You sound like a good fellow. Please fix an avatar so i can see you better :). For example this http://shop.wax-affair.ch/images/tmp_cleanbusiness/dax-red.gif

@Roque

Will be nice too see some beta later on

@Kicko

Thanks!

That was truly fun! ^__^

My name's David, by the way I used to play a lot of coin ops back in the day and since they mostly allowed 3 letters in the "Records Screen" I ended it with an X (very old nick).

I will try to upload an avatar ASAP (maybe more amiga related than the nice Hair-Gel ).

@Rogue
You're our Hero! Hope to get my hands on that beautiful update I tried at Pianeta Amiga soon (don't worry I'm not gonna ask when will it be available )!

@Rogue

Good to hear

@all
just to fire up a bit interest about bounty:

3076.18 EUR Out of 3215.9 EUR originally submitted.

:) imho that nice. Not sure that brothers think that it can be more than 2thousands, but now it's 3, and i think after they will release any test version, bounty will growing up twice. (personally i am will spend 100 eur when will have chance to run first alpha-beta version).

I've just seen the 24 pages of responses to the Firefox news item on AW.

Anyways ...

Thankyou Hans-Joerg Frieden and Thomas Frieden for taking on this project.

My son uses Firefox all the time on the pc and he swears by it.

I use OWB, NetSurf, AWeb and IBrowse on my MicroA1.

Looking forward to Timberwolf.

Thanks,
redfox

@Rogue

Nice work! Love you two Bro's. Any "guesstimate" on when we may hear about "The Ambitious Project"? Just checking.

Keep up the excellent work.
Thank you,
Chris

@thread

In case anyone missed it: Gecko is working!!!

That's great

This is great news. Keep up the good work.

Hope the bounty goes past the sputnik bounty soon. Deserves that.

Great news. Keep up the good work :)

Cool ! I hope that refreshing problem will be solved and refresh/scrolling will be the same fast as on OWB ;)

But indeed, if Gecko almost working now, then it's more than half of way are passed. I feel that soon we will have chance to see first alpha version :)