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yoodoo2

Posted on: 2010/3/19 16:42 #1

Just popping in

There's a poll over on AW.net to see how many people would buy a brand new C programming guide for OS4.

Apologies for the cross post, but I'd rather have just the one poll running across the various sites.

Thanks

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nubechecorre

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/19 17:53 #2

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@yoodoo2

i would buy one, it would be nice to have a book about os4 progamming and it could be usefull for a new beginning about updating documentation for amiga os sdk (as the most updated documentation is the old amiga os 3.9 sdk dev cd)

Raziel

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/19 18:09 #3

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@yoodoo2

That would be awesome
Additionally to a C/C++ book this OS4 special coding book would be a #1 addition here

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Coder

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/19 18:15 #4

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@yoodoo2

I would buy it.

Coder

elfpipe

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/19 19:49 #5

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@Coder

Hehe, I actually started writing a book on "modern Amiga programming" (intended to include a section on Hollywood and other stuff) but eventually gave up, because I realized, I knew too little about the subject.

I would definitely buy one!

logicalheart

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/19 20:33 #6

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@yoodoo2
Yes I would buy one. Thanks for posting here since I no longer visit AmigaWorld.

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pjs

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 2:42 #7

Not too shy to talk

@yoodoo2

I saw your posting on AW.net and I voted "yes" there.
Thanks for cross-posting here!

I'd also be glad to buy your book and would easily be
willing to pay twice that price - let's say up to $40
or more - if your goals are fully realized.

Yes, it would be important to aim at beginners
(experienced coders get by with autodocs

), to see
how to set up GCC and provide _a_ lot_ of example code.

Maybe you can ask Simon Archer for Appendix chapter on
using Codebench?

Finally, in today's world, I think it would be important
to have a chapter on TCP/IP coding - setting up sockets,
a simple server and client and transfering data.

THANKS!

PJS

Rigo

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 3:42 #8

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This is the kind of thing that could be driven by a community effort, although it's probably easier if everyone just sits back and waits for someone else to do it.

A book like this is likely to cost in excess of 100 euro, purely because of the scale of work and the amount of potential buyers.

Bear that in mind when answering polls....

yoodoo2

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 10:16 #9

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@Rigo

Hi Simon, thanks for your input.

Quote:

Rigo wrote:
it's probably easier if everyone just sits back and waits for someone else to do it. [quote]

Does that mean there is an official book in the works? I know Olaf was working on updating the RKMs, but that was a while back, iirc?

[quote]A book like this is likely to cost in excess of 100 euro, purely because of the scale of work and the amount of potential buyers.

The majority of the work is going to have to be unpaid - ie the proofreading, editing, typesetting etc (that's why I need the community involved).

Quote:

Bear that in mind when answering polls....

The quotes I have will allow me to to produce a printed manual at the price given. Clearly it may not be the quality of a "real" professional book by say, O Reily, but we are in need of something: using loads of disparate websites/electronic docs is tricky and a printed references of some sort is much more easy to handle and use away from the computer.

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AJS

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 11:39 #10

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@yoodoo2
Hi Richard, sounds like a good idea

for publishing have you thought of using these?

http://www.lulu.com/uk/

just a thought,might save on shipping costs due to them having various locations around the world,and I think its a print per order, so no stocks for you to hold?

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BillE

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 11:39 #11

Quite a regular

@yoodoo2

Excellent idea, the price is a bit optimistoc maybe ?

One suggestion, add a section about MUI too.

afxgroup

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 11:41 #12

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@AJS

damn.. it is incredible how vaste is internet.. you can find anything you want.. God bless Internet..

i'm really tired...

trixie

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 11:42 #13

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@yoodoo2

Quote:

The majority of the work is going to have to be unpaid - ie the proofreading, editing, typesetting etc (that's why I need the community involved).

I strongly recommend setting up a project using a project management/collaboration tool, such as ClockingIT (a free alternative to the popular BaseCamp):

http://www.clockingit.com

This way you'll have an overview of assigned tasks and deadlines, project team activity, task progress, and a centralized repository of files. Team members can discuss things and leave comments. All in one place instead of keeping e-mail communication with several people and then looking for info/data scattered in countless e-mails in your mailbox.

You can allow selected OS developers to follow project activity and comment on it, providing an invaluable feedback and making necessary corrections.

tlm

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 12:04 #14

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@yoodoo2

I would buy the book and help any way I could.

Antique

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 12:18 #15

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@yoodoo2

This is a thing i'd like to buy.

Since usb2 is very much the standard,a chapter on that would be nice too.

X5000

Controller

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/20 17:06 #16

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@yoodoo2

I think that this is exactly what a beginner needs in order to start programming for Amiga OS4. As it is now a beginner has to gather information scattered all over the internet and update all the dated examples.

I would buy a copy of it.

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Controller

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Elwood

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/22 18:33 #17

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@yoodoo2

Good idea.
Do not stick to C only. I mean you can add examples written in C but don't forget there are non-C coders out there.

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Amigo1

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/23 16:50 #18

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@yoodoo2

how about releasing a book in electronic format? be it pdf, e-book, dijvu or whatever. Surely it would eliminate printing costs and it would be good for ecology. thanx.

trixie

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/23 18:38 #19

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@Amigo1

As it has already been pointed out, the project involves certain costs that have to be covered. By producing a printed book, there's a fair chance that enough interested buyers will generate enough revenue to cover all the costs (including printing).

With an electronic version very little is guaranteed. If it's digital and someone has it, you can be very close to the point when everyone has it

Amigo1

Re: New Programming Book for OS4

Posted on: 2010/3/23 21:36 #20

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@trixie

Quote:

trixie wrote:
@Amigo1
...
With an electronic version very little is guaranteed. If it's digital and someone has it, you can be very close to the point when everyone has it

yes, sad but true

is there no way to somehow protect it? eBooks can somehow be crypted isn't it?
About the price, I would pay the same amount I would for the printed version, but since I partially work in the printing/book business I am in touch with the huge waste this industry creates, and I'm so much looking forward to eBooks..

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