I'm in touch with the owner of DynaCadd - the famous 3d CAD program (mechanical engineering) from the early ninetees. I asked him if there is a chance of porting DynaCadd to OS4 and he answered that the realisation is possible.
So I'm trying now to find out how much interest there is for such a port and which programmers would be willing to participate in such a project.
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You know in the current shape of the market such initiatives should only be done if there is no high (or not at all) money expectation because otherwise it will inevitably lead to deceptions.
I don't want to sound rude or anything, just check the motivations before starting something like that.
Of course that's just IMHO.
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Re: Is there interest in getting an OS4.x native port of DynaCadd?
Sign up as interested to use, not buy. There are no native CAD apps to my knowledge. Since I am not a programmer, if needed, I can add some small money to existing bounty
@Dandy If sources are plain C, without ASM, and all done without too much hacks, hooks, without hardcore using of custom chips and stuff, then it will be pretty easy to port. But if there many asm parts and alt, then it will be pretty hard for anyone to port it, just because all that assembler stuff grab tons of time for nothing.
Good idea Dandy. Is the better CAD existing for amiga. It would be very good news, now many people would buy a new amiga if the software for OS4 was increasing with quality software in all areas. I personally use AutoCAD in my work and I would like a good CAD software to next gen Amiga.
Im not info CAD but if its not hard to port and its good why not. Ofcourse that would mean updated gui etc. But i wouldnt pay for it as i would probably not use it. Im more into photoshop alike soft with layers support. Gimp would be nice without cygnix.
@Mrodfr Its old (yes appear for atari and windows)but is the better solution cad 2d and possibly 3d for amiga today for this is a good news if finally can be ported to os4 sorry all for my poor english
I have really mixed feelings about this... on one hand, I'd either kill or pay thousands of dollars for a real, productive & reliable CAD program on AmigaOS4. On the other hand, I don't believe it will happen and it seems like the bar is set really low.
Take DynaCADD - from what I recall (and I see in the attached thread) it was a pretty crude program. IIRC, it didn't even use windows or have an ability to open multiple documents. That's pretty backwards.
Yes, it's better than nothing... I don't really want to be discouraging... but then I use CAD for a living and, as such, it has to work *WELL*. So you could count me in for moderate support, just to support the Amiga.
Give me an OS4 port of even the ancient MiniCAD 7 (with more modern file import/export) and I'd be THRILLED... and I'd be glad to pay exponentially more it.
I have really mixed feelings about this... on one hand, I'd either kill or pay thousands of dollars for a real, productive & reliable CAD program on AmigaOS4. On the other hand, I don't believe it will happen and it seems like the bar is set really low.
Take DynaCADD - from what I recall (and I see in the attached thread) it was a pretty crude program.
It was the best CAD program for the Amiga I know of. Here is an extract of an review of DynaCADD 2.04 from a German Amiga magazine (Amiga Special No. 7/8 1992), translated by me:
... User Interface
DynaCADD is fully mouse operated, but also a digitizing tablet is supported. Both options have their pros and cons and are personal decisions. Keyboard entry is restricted to freely definable macros (Ctrl+A...Z), as well as to parts of the numeric input. All in all the intuitional user interface leaves a good mark and not just insiders sould get by with an extremely short learning phase and the internal online help comes in handy here. Also the hierarchically arranged gadgets greatly support the learning process. AutoCAD requires more studies because of the input via keyboard or tablet. DynaCADD is strongly geared to the user interfaces of the workstation programs "CADDS 4X" and "CIM-LINK". Some convenient functions are provided, e.g. the function to define PICTURES very easily. A PICTURE is a freely definable detail of the drawing, that is directly addressable anytime. ...
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IIRC, it didn't even use windows or have an ability to open multiple documents. That's pretty backwards.
I haven't used it for quite a while - I would have to fire up my Miggy at home and to check... But don't forget that 1993 IS backwards...
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Yes, it's better than nothing... I don't really want to be discouraging... but then I use CAD for a living and, as such, it has to work *WELL*.
So you could count me in for moderate support, just to support the Amiga.
Give me an OS4 port of even the ancient MiniCAD 7 (with more modern file import/export) and I'd be THRILLED... and I'd be glad to pay exponentially more it.
Hmmm - from what I recall it actually worked WELL. Back in 1989-1992, when I did my CAD analyst study, I used it at home on my trusty old A500. It was awfully slow, but it worked and I could repeat all the exercises we did at school on a SUN workstation with CADDS 4X. It just wasn't able to do NURBS (Non Uniform Rational B-Splines), while it was capable of 3d modelling with boolean funtions, IIRC.
And of course it wasn't capable to convert the 3d model data to executable CNC programs, like it was possible with CADDS 4X (but I had a small tool for that and could test the converted data on a CNC machine at school), and also didn't have a shader (e.g. for collision examinations).
If the project to port it to OS 4.x should really get kicked off, I would vote for an "overhaul" to bring the missing things to DynaCADD, of course.
it depends from the source code. It is C or ASM? And what GUI is using? MUI? or what?
I seem to remember to have read somewhere that the code was written in C - but to be sure I will ask the owner. I will also ask what GUI was used and what he meant with "realisation is possible... " - does it mean he will do the port himself (or his programmer), or does it mean he will give us (the Amiga community) the source code and we do the port. If the latter, will it be for free or at what price?
Ciao, Dandy ----------------------------------------------------------- If someone enjoys marching to military music, then I already despise him. He got his brain accidently - the bone marrow in his back would have been sufficient for him! (...
I think it'd be nice to have a CAD program. How out of date is this? I'd like to learn BRL CAD if I had time. That's supposed to be quite advanced and open-source, but would surely be a huge undertking in comparison to dynacad
I think it'd be nice to have a CAD program. How out of date is this?
I think development of the Amiga version stopped roughly around the time Commodore went belly up with version 2.04 - I read somewhere on the web that v3 was announced but never published.
The last windows version of DynaCADD was DynaCADD 98, AFAIK.
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I'd like to learn BRL CAD if I had time.
Are you an engineer?
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That's supposed to be quite advanced and open-source, but would surely be a huge undertking in comparison to dynacad
Thanks for mentioning BRL CAD - I hadn't heard about it before.
From what I read it seems to have a good feature set - almost everything I'm missing in DynaCADD - except CNC functionality. I'm not sure if it only offeres NURBS primitives or if it supports free definition of NURBS surfaces. Given the "collection of more than 400 tools, utilities, and applications comprising more than a million lines of source code" and the fact that "The package is intentionally designed to be extensively cross-platform and is actively developed on and maintained for many common operating system environments including for BSD, Linux, Solaris, ...", I'd even prefer it over DynaCadd.
It's just the complexity of this program and its 400+ tools that makes me think that porting this beast to AOS 4.x might (in the light of the narrow resources in the Amiga market) take ages and so porting and overhauling DynaCADD might be "the lesser of two evils".
Anyway - my thinking is that implementing CNC/CAM features might perfectly make sense in the light of XENA's "control hardware & robotics"-capabilities in the A1X1k.
i would like to see a port for amigaos4 (maybe also aros and morphos?). i also would like to see more old software opensourced and ported to modern amiga-systems. this way they can be updated and there is no need for 68k emulation anymore. thumbs up!
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