Thx! Now the card is recognized correctly, but it behaves the same as the NEC one. As soon as I plug in something, my µA1 freezes. Anything I could do against this?
Oh, and I had to comment out the uhci parts in kicklayout, otherwise the machine wont boot at all, it hangs directly after the splash screen
I had a VIA based PCI card ready to try. With Update 2 it would only hang the boot process, so I waited for the new update. Under update 3 it still hangs, just cycling the splash screen repeatedly. My PCI slot worked fine when I had a SoundBlaster card in there previously, so I don't think it's a slot problem.
It's not a big deal, I'll order a NEC based card the next time I go shopping.
@whose, @LyleHaze, have you tried the card in another PCI slot? Because I have a scsi card that work only in the first slot otherwise the boot process stop at the end of the "loading modules" phase.
Hmmm... Am I missing a trick here? Because I was under the impression you couldn't use the PCI slot next to the AGP slot when the AGP slot was in use as they shared signals... Perhaps this is why your card is acting funny? I remember my IDE card would be recognised in the first slot (next to AGP), but would freeze the system if I tried to use it. Worked fine in the lower slots...
*One Radeon 9000 Pro on the AGP Port *Nothing on the 66Mhz PCI port *One SATA 3114 card on the 1st PCI 33 Mhz port (with one 1,5TB HD attached) *One EMU10k sound card on the 2nd PCI 33 Mhz port *One NEC USB 2 card on the 3rd PCI 33 Mhz port
*One Radeon 9000 Pro on the AGP Port *Nothing on the 66Mhz PCI port *One SATA 3114 card on the 1st PCI 33 Mhz port (with one 1,5TB HD attached) *One EMU10k sound card on the 2nd PCI 33 Mhz port *One NEC USB 2 card on the 3rd PCI 33 Mhz port
Everything is working flawlessly.
Thanks for the info. My USB2 is on it's way to me. I'll follow your layout when I install it.
Well, I have a PCI card working very reliable in my MicroA1... its a SII0680 RAID controller, and it works perfectly good (except RAID functionality, that is. No support for RAID atm.).
Theres no need to completely disable USB (theres still a bug somewhere, so that one has to disable rear or front USB ports in order to use a secondary IDE channel) and in theory the onboard IDE is usable, too. Well, usable, but not very stable, that is. But this is true for a bare system (without any PCI card inserted), too
The point with USB2.0 is, that the system freezes partly, if a USB device is plugged in. I think its the EHCI driver that makes big trouble here. For me it seems that USB2 wasnt tested very intensive on MicroA1. Maybe betatesters used FX machines only, which are a bit more reliable than the GX types.
Over at os4welt.de (german forum) theres somebody who found a USB2/SATA combination on PCI card and he states that it works fine, except USB2. He had to disable the EHCI driver, but OHCI works. And he doesnt need to disable the UHCI driver in Kickstart then.
Swoop wrote: Thanks for the info. My USB2 is on it's way to me. I'll follow your layout when I install it.
I can confirm about the differences between PCI slots in an A1XE when trying to use a PCI USB card. My D-Link DU-520 USB2 PCI card doesn't work if inserted in the second PCI 33MHz slot, while it works flawlessly in the third PCI slot (the one which is nearest the motherboard's edge). My setup is as follows (it is similar to K-L's one):
*One Radeon 9200 on the AGP Port *Nothing on the 66Mhz PCI port *One SATA 3114 card on the 1st PCI 33 Mhz port *Nothing on the 2nd PCI 33 Mhz port *One NEC USB 2 card on the 3rd PCI 33 Mhz port
This is on an A1XE 1GHz with internal USB and DMA fixes.
Incidentally, the same card refused to work in a Pentium 4 system as well, inserted in a PCI slot in the middle, I haven't tried to insert it in the last PCI slot.
Swoop wrote: Thanks for the info. My USB2 is on it's way to me. I'll follow your layout when I install it.
I can confirm about the differences between PCI slots in an A1XE when trying to use a PCI USB card. My D-Link DU-520 USB2 PCI card doesn't work if inserted in the second PCI 33MHz slot, while it works flawlessly in the third PCI slot (the one which is nearest the motherboard's edge). My setup is as follows (it is similar to K-L's one):
*One Radeon 9200 on the AGP Port *Nothing on the 66Mhz PCI port *One SATA 3114 card on the 1st PCI 33 Mhz port *Nothing on the 2nd PCI 33 Mhz port *One NEC USB 2 card on the 3rd PCI 33 Mhz port
This is on an A1XE 1GHz with internal USB and DMA fixes.
Incidentally, the same card refused to work in a Pentium 4 system as well, inserted in a PCI slot in the middle, I haven't tried to insert it in the last PCI slot.
I had a similar "feature" with my PCI SCSI lsi53c8xx card which refused to work in the 1st pci 33 mhz slot but was working flawlessly on the 3rd (the last one), and that is on A1G4 with DMA and USB fixes ! but the card was not working anymore after I upgraded to AOS4.1 (or one the following update)
I have both NEC and VIA card. I tried the VIA card for an day only and connected a usb mem stick and transfered 700mb file 3 times. No problem. I dont know how it would work daily.
The NEC card i had problems with as it freeze my system randomly. I tried and tested and my system worked stable without it. Now i put it back and my system is still stable. No random freeze for 2 days. Ok i havent connected anything to it but i will try more later. Strange stuff :)
*Radeon9200(nonSE) *Empty *NEC or AVI *SII0680 *ESI Juli@ soundcard
as said i had feezes before with nec in the same port with freezes. Now when i reconnected it seems to work ok. But then havent connected anything to it. will use if for transfering files.
Just wanted to be sure you saw the posts above where USB2 was working in the last slot as opposed to the first. (port 3 vs port 1) If you have an issue you could copy the layout from those posters, and see if you get the satisfactory result that they did. (so far)
I'd just like to add that I've salvaged a VIA USB2.0 card and have tried it in my A1. So far it doesn't work in the first 33MHz slot (but then again, neither does my Soundblaster card), and works fine in the second slot. I haven't tried swapping further, but it looks like I have to choose between audio and USB2.0 :( My cards:
AGP: Radeon 9250 PCI 66MHz: Empty PCI 33MHz: Empty PCI 33MHz: Soundblaster / VIA USB PCI 33MHz: SII0680 IDE controller
Can anyone who has all three 33MHz slots working post up their interrupt settings etc? Because I might try fiddle with them and see if I can get all 3 slots working... Thanks!
From all the posts above and elsewhere, it is apparent that slot 1 has been good for H/D controller. Have you tried that and can you confirm? If so, then perhaps post #27 layout for soundcard and usb2 might work for you.
Yeah, I went and tried that just after posting, in all the combinations above, and with just the IDE controller and graphics cards installed. The IDE controller is recognised by UBoot in the 1st 33MHz slot, but it doesn't work properly - the FLB can't find the SLB.
It looks like my first PCI slot ls knackered so :( I have my PCI IRQs set as 9, 10, 11 and 7, all level triggered. I've tried swapping them around, but the problem persists in the first slot and doesn't follow an IRQ.
Thanks for the follow up. Just for my own curiosity:
(1)Was there always an issue with your slot 1?
(2)Is this a fixed or unfixed XE?
(3)Overclocked or running at 800mhz?
Regardless, this still follows what others have posted in different forums. Slot 1 either works for H/D controller only or has issues (in your case) even with that.
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