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What happened to Qt??
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So...

I just wanted to confirm, that Qt has not died, I have just taken a veery long summer holiday this year, but now I'm trying to gear up for makin' some more work (also of course Napalm came in the middle of everything)...

I want to get down to actually porting some apps, and I wanted to ask the community to give some oppinions on what apps would be welcommed the most. I myself have a big plan to port MuseScore (musical score editing), but this requires CMake, which we don't have (yet).

Also, I think Chris had done some image reader module, that I would like to implement in the Qt release. If you could maybe repost your link here it would be great!

Also, any comments or requests, new or old that I forgot about, would be welcome!

Best,

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I myself have a big plan to port MuseScore (musical score editing), but this requires CMake, which we don't have (yet).

Ohhh, yesss ... This would be really great. We have been missing a musical score editor for ages now.

Is someone already working on CMake?

Best regards,

Niels

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KOffice was suggested, but I suspect that some smaller stuff would be worth doing first!

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I would like to port something to.. CMake is not a problem if you cross compile the stuff on a Mac or Linux box..

i'm really tired...
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@alfkil

Good to hear!

My image format plugin is here: libqdt

It enables read/write of images through DataTypes, for any Qt apps that use Qt's image read/write functions (although writing using DataTypes is mostly pointless as hardly any datatype sub-classes support it)

I haven't spotted any drawbacks of having it installed, although the pool of Qt apps is quite small at the moment so testing is limited.

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@Alfkil

Good that QT development will be restarted soon, welcome back !

Just reinstalled from scratch under a fresh Update 3 installation and i have some things to report

- After a reset, everytime i start an example i have an AmigaDOS requester

Insert Disk
graphicssystem:
in a disk unit

Process: "calculator" (if i start Calculator of course)

So an assign is always needed but still annoying :-/

- Native menus and Native dialogs should be activated by default in Prefs
- A new option in Prefs to turn off all shell output (this also must be activated by default aswell)
- Iconify support for all example/demos windows
- Eliminate all QT's internal resize gadget
- AmigaOS Native fonts
- Better resize syle for all windows according to the AmigaOS style
- Some freeze from time to time, need testing ..
- More speed everywhere

More to come ...

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@Alfkill
Like ChrisH said KOffice would be nice but i dont know if its possible?

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How about http://trac.qutecom.org/



I've downloaded and installed Qt and you have done a great job so far! It's definitely something that we will be showing and talking about at Amiwest in terms of progress for Amiga OS4.

Keep on coding!
Bill

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Great to hear anything QT is still going ;)

Talking about Koffice, would it be possible to port just the word processor for starters?
Could it be more "doable" this way (one piece at a time?)

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I installed Qt and did a bit of testing, I also tried EasyImage Sizer. However, this is my impression:

- A bit slow on my SAM440ep in terms of useability, MUI/Reaction OS4.1 is a lot snappier.
- but still lot faster than e.g. AmiCygnix or KDE or Xfce on my SAM440ep Debian.
- native Menus + filerequesters are very wellcome in terms of useability.
- missing OS4 theme
- some small font/graphic glitches here and there
- especially scrolling in e.g. "textedit" example is slow.
- All in all I'd say a very good job.

Well, some suggestions:
- port apps with simple GUI first in order to prevent slow down (e.g. scrolling etc.)
- said this, I believe any sort of wordprocessor becomes unusable on SAM440 677Mhz, when working with a lot of text/graphics/formulars.
- I would love a decent spreedsheet soft, but I guess once we have to much lines in it it will also have slowdowns when scrolling.

However, I guess there are applications which donnot use massive GUI or scrolling. This could be:

- Scanner frontend
- CD/DVD burning stuff
- Frontend for GPS devices
- pdf maker / pdf split and merge
- homebanking soft
- mp3 tageditor
- mp3 database/playlist manager
- "Outlook light" ToDoList, Calendar, Reminder, Adresses

However, I am aware of the fact, that some stuff is probably bound to missing HW drivers (such as Scanner frontend). I am also aware, that slowdowns, theming etc. already had been discussed.

regards Gero

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KOffice was suggested], but I suspect that some smaller stuff would be worth doing first!


Not to say that before porting any KDE apps one would first have to port KDElibs which is another layer on top of Qt...

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I would love a decent spreedsheet soft, but I guess once we have to much lines in it it will also have slowdowns when scrolling.


You can play around with QSimpleSheet to test that theory.


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What happened to qt-apps.org???

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What happened to qt-apps.org???

I think it is something linked to
http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php

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Nice to see you're still working on ths.-)
Hope i can play with some qt apps in the future.

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@gerograph Quote:
- A bit slow on my SAM440ep in terms of useability, MUI/Reaction OS4.1 is a lot snappier.
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- especially scrolling in e.g. "textedit" example is slow.

My understanding is that this is down to our outdated OpenGL (MESA)... and thus should be fixed by AmigaOS4.2, which will use Gallium3D.

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Update: I have been diverted to try and port CMake, because it seems, that a majority of the projects, I want to do use this make mechanism. As someone pointed out, cross compiling might have solved the issue for me, but my feeble attempts to switch to cross comp under cygwin didn't turn out to be a complete success (something with thread id's went wrong AFAIR).

Be patient, eventually some apps will turn up .

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Do you compose yourself?? How odd, I didn't know!

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Maybe put dmake and cmake when its ready into the sdk?

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@gerograph Quote:
- A bit slow on my SAM440ep in terms of useability, MUI/Reaction OS4.1 is a lot snappier.
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- especially scrolling in e.g. "textedit" example is slow.

My understanding is that this is down to our outdated OpenGL (MESA)... and thus should be fixed by AmigaOS4.2, which will use Gallium3D.


Our outdated OpenGL is MiniGL, which will be replaced by MESA. A common misconception is that Gallium3D is OpenGL; it's not. Gallium3D is a 3D graphics driver system, and MESA (the OpenGL API) sits on top of that.

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