Thanks Acube... :-)

thought I wouldn't get updated drivers unless I paid the fee

Why did you think you *needed* any driver updates? Isn't your Radeon HD 4650 working fine with the current drivers?

I'm using a resolution of 1920x1080x32 on my Peg2 G4 machine with an old ATI Radeon 9250 256MB without the slightest problem.

PCI Only Amigas While I would recommend that people upgrade to one of the newer motherboards that support PCIe, I realise that many will want to upgrade their existing machines instead. My current recommendation is still that people wait until the driver has actually been released before buying a card for older Amigas. There is no set release date yet. With older AmigaOS 4.x machines, the choice is rather more limited. The performance will be limited by the PCI bus' bandwidth, and the lower CPU speed. Nevertheless, I still see upgrading to a Radeon HD (or Radeon X1000 series) card as a step up. Not in terms of speed, but in terms of capability. These cards will introduce the ability to use shaders, which opens up a whole new set of possibilities. Here are some general things to keep in mind: WARNING: Do not try to use an AGP version of these cards in your Amiga! Despite having made it clear that this is not possible, I still see people talking about it occasionally on various web forums (or fora, whichever you prefer). I want to make it clear right now that this will not work, and will likely damage both your graphics card and your Amiga. The reason is that the Radeon HD cards are all AGP 4x/8x cards, and do not support the higher voltage of the AGP 2x slot. The AmigaOne XE mistakenly has a universal AGP connector, so the graphics card will physically fit. Please do not try this If you use a PCI-to-PCIe bridge card, get one with a PEX8112. The Radeon HD driver has code to optimise the settings of the PEX 8111 and 8112, but not other PCI-to-PCIe bridges. Plus, it supports blind-prefetching, which increases VRAM read access speed. Also, you will need a low-profile graphics card, or your card will be dangling over the edge, with connectors blocked by your case A Radeon HD 4650 plus a PCI-to-PCIe bridge card will outperform a Radeon HD 4350 PCI. This is a case of my original assumption being wrong. Originally I said that, due to the slow PCI bus and lower CPU power, the Radeon HD 4650 would be a waste. Well, someone decided to try anyway and, it does have a noticeable improvement over the Radeon HD 4350 PCI. Yes, the PCI bus and lower CPU power is a bottleneck, and you'll never be able to get the maximum out of the card. Nevertheless, testing has shown that it does make for a snappier machine overall SAM 440-FLEX AND SAM 440EP REMINDER: The RadeonHD driver is not yet available for these motherboards. At this stage I would recommend that Sam 440-flex users to get either a Radeon HD 4350 PCI, or get a PEX 8112 based PCI-to-PCIe bridge card and a low-profile Radeon HD 4650** if they wish to upgrade to a Radeon HD card. It is faster than older cards, and offers all of the capabilities of the Radeon HD 4000 series. If you want to get a Radeon X1000 series card, then the Radeon X1550 has the best performance. ** NOTE: I say "low-profile" because a PCI-to-PCIe plus a low-profile Radeon HD card should be able to fit into a full-size slot, whereas plugging a full-size AMIGAONE-XE (WITHOUT THE DMA FIX) AND THE AMIGAONE-SE REMINDER: The RadeonHD driver is not yet available for these motherboards. My recommendations for these motherboards are the same as for the Sam 440-flex. AMIGAONE-XE (WITH DMA FIX) AND THE MICRO AMIGAONE REMINDER: The RadeonHD driver is not yet available for these motherboards. It is well known that the Micro AmigaOne (uA1) has trouble with using a plug-in graphics card. Some have managed to use plug-in graphics cards, but had to sacrifice DMA for their hard-drives, and USB. AmigaOne-XE (A1-XE) boards with the DMA fix have the same problem as the uA1 with graphics cards plugged into the 33 MHz bus. Unfortunately UBoot does not initialise Radeon HD cards properly when plugged into the 66 MHz PCI slot since it cannot handle nested PCI bridges. I hope that the AmigaOne UBoot update project manages to fix this issue. In the meantime, know that using Radeon HD cards (or Radeon X1000 series cards) will require sacrificing DMA for IDE and USB. PEGASOS-II IMPORTANT: Radeon HD cards will not work with the Pegasos-II. The Pegasos-II's openfirmware will not detect and initialise the graphics card. It will quite happily detect and initialise the PCI-to-PCIe bridge on the card, but it will not detect the actual graphics chipset that resides behind the bridge. Attempts have been made to contact Genesi and B-Plan regarding getting the firmware updated, but to no avail. CLASSIC AMIGAS WITH POWERPC ACCELERATORS IMPORTANT: Radeon HD cards do not work in Classic Amigas. Apart from being impractical, PCI-to-PCI bridges are not supported on any of the Classic Amiga bus-boards. Since connecting a Radeon HD card to a PCI bus requires a PCI-to-PCIe bridge (either soldered on to the card, or separate), this will not work. The bridge chip is detected, but not the graphics card behind it. Even if this problem were solved, I have been told that the 256 MiB of CPU-accessible VRAM into the Zorro address space (NOTE: The 256 MiB must also be 256 MiB aligned, due to PCI alignment rules). To be honest, the Classic Amiga is so underpowered relative to these cards that using them together makes little sense. You really need a modern PCI-Express capable Amiga to be able to take full advantage of Radeon HD cards.

for the people that bougth them, the big question how work it? now you can play to 3d games ... ?