Mouse wheel support on classic programs (Solved)

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Swoop

Posted on: 2007/2/27 16:31 #1

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Following this post on Amigaworld, I wondered if it is possible to enable wheelmouse support for classic programs running on OS4Final. I use Wordworth, and TurboCalc on a daily basis and mousewheel support would be very useful.

IPrefs is already in C:, and I have downloaded Freewheel and NewMouse from Aminet.

Does anyone know if there is any conflict with native OS4Final components?
Do I have to set these programs up in any special way?

Thanks for any help.

Edited by Swoop on 2007/2/28 16:07:31

Severin

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/27 19:34 #2

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@Swoop

Forget NewMouse and Freewheel, use either Macc on os4depot or use the NEWMOUSE option in IPrefs

Both convert the OS4 wheel support into the old newmouse hack. don't expect everything to work, programs have to be specifically written to use newmouse.

Btw. NewMouse software works with serial mice connected to a serial port, not PS/2 or USB mice.

Edit: I just tried WW7, it does not support newmouse.

Edited by Severin on 2007/2/27 19:59:10

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Swoop

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/27 20:14 #3

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@Severin

Thanks for the reply.

Is there any available, public documentation for IPrefs.

Severin

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/27 22:10 #4

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@Swoop

IPrefs only has one option 'NEWMOUSE'. if there are no docs on the final CD than probably not

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Swoop

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 3:22 #5

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@Severin

The only Docs I can find is on the CD,in Documentation/C/IPrefs.doc.

Quote:

commands/IPREFS commands/IPREFS

NAME
IPREFS - To communicate Preferences information stored in the
individual editor files to the Workbench.

FORMAT
IPREFS

TEMPLATE
(none)

PATH
C:IPREFS

FUNCTION
IPREFS reads the individual system Preferences files and passes the
information to the Workbench so that it can reply accordingly. IPREFS
is generally run in the Startup-sequence after the Preferences files
are copied to ENV:. Each time a user selects Save or Use from within
an editor, IPREFS is notified and passes the information along to
Workbench. If necessary, IPREFS will reset Workbench in order to
implement those changes. If any project or tool windows are open,
IPREFS will display a requester asking you to close any non-drawer
windows.

There is a C:IPrefs in S/Startup-Sequence, I presume I just add 'newmouse' after that.
Is it case sensitive?

Jurassicc

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 7:47 #6

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@Swoop

New Shell process 5
5.OS4:> iprefs ?
NEWMOUSE/S:

A1XE, A1200T, X1000, X5020, CDTV, CD32 , A500+ A500
OS4.1b / OS3.2b

TetiSoft

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 7:50 #7

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@Swoop

Quote:

There is a C:IPrefs in S/Startup-Sequence, I presume I just add 'newmouse' after that.
Is it case sensitive?

Command line arguments are not case sensitive, however,
when you select turkish as preferred language, you can
choose between an international variant which behaves like
other languages and a turkish variant which does turkish
case comparison.

The turkish case comparison routine handles i and I as different
letters because a small letter i (with dot above) matches
the capital letter I with dot above and the small letter
dotless i matches the capital letter I (without dot above).

But for IPrefs this doesnt matter anyway because when IPrefs
is started the preferred language is still english. All
shell scripts started after IPrefs may get problems when
using lowercase keywords which contain an "i" when running
on a turkish machine, shell script writers are encouraged
to always use uppercase for keywords...

Swoop

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 13:01 #8

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@Jurassicc

Quote:

New Shell process 5
5.OS4:> iprefs ?
NEWMOUSE/S:

Doh!! I should have tried that.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll update my S-S accordingly, and see what happens.

Swoop

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 15:54 #9

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Brilliant!!! This works with both WordWorth and TurboCalc.

1. Change 'C:IPrefs' line in S/Startup-Sequence to 'C:IPrefs NEWMOUSE', and saved.

2. Download and install Freewheel , from Aminet.
????I put it in WBStartUp, but as it is a commodity, I am not sure if this is the right place.

3. Re-booted A1.

I have loaded documents larger than one page in both WordWorth and TurboCal, and the mousewheel works a treat.
I haven't really looked at the FreeWheel options, but there is a GUI to set various options.

Severin

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 16:29 #10

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@Swoop

Be careful with FreeWheel, it's a hack and have no idea how well it will work with OS4, there have been a lot of changes in the area that it hacks.

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abalaban

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 17:00 #11

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@Severin

Seems the source code of FreeWheel is available, so if a problem is detected, one can eventually correct it (theorically it should even be possible to directly support OS4 mouse events without the IPrefs's NEWMOUSE option).

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Swoop

Re: Mouse wheel support on classic programs

Posted on: 2007/2/28 18:30 #12

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@abalaban

The source code is in the acrhive, so some enterprising coder could probably make an OS4 native version wuite easily.

@Severin

I am only using it in its default mode, and one of the reasons I left the settings alone was because of the reasons you gave. I only know if gives me mouse-wheel scrolling in two programs I use on a daily basis.

If I have any problems I will report back here.

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