just thinking that most (if not all) of these RC2 glitches could have been picked up by the many beta testers running all different hardware setups for OS4.1 before release so just wondering why the bros didn't go to them first ?
just thinking that most (if not all) of these RC2 glitches could have been picked up by the many beta testers running all different hardware setups for OS4.1 before release so just wondering why the bros didn't go to them first ?
Maybe because certain users are (sometimes) better than betatester ?
Maybe because certain users are (sometimes) better than betatester ?
Sometimes not. Now that we have discovered that TImberwolf RC2 will start if you use some files from RC1, I wonder how many people will make bug reports while operating RC2 in a modified way. I don't think reporting bugs using different combinations of files than the programmer is using will be at all helpful. I think we need to wait for RC3.
Amiga X1000 with 2GB memory & OS 4.1FE + Radeon HD 5450
Well yes and no .. i mean, even if not in an ideal way this method help us to understand which library/ies was responsable of the problem, we discover an issue that depend of the filesystem, when problem specifically happen and so on .. still of course in general, sometimes can't be a correct method to test programs for sure but in this case it help.
For example using an old version of Cairo generate new problems with the mouse pointer and the links. maybe this one can be usefull as information .. just to say one
Aniway re-reading the entire thread I think we (all of us) have did an excellent betatesting, so just an help for the Friedens bros
I've performed some comparative tests of TW RC2 on various partions (on a vanilla AmigaONE X1000 installation).
FFS (RC2 Files only) SFS (3 RC1 files subsituted to allow TW RC2 to run) JXFS (3 RC1 files substituted as aboce)
The performance of TW RC2 running from SFS & JXFS is practically identical and almost 100% faster compared to running TW from a FFS partition, when loading complex websites (eg bbc.co.uk & stuff.co.nz). The TW startup speed is also almost 300% faster that FFS. The performance difference on regular Amiga community websites (Amigans, AmigaWorld, Amiga.org & MorphOS etc) is less noticeable.
salass00 wrote: Using the new RC2 version (fresh install) I get a crash on startup every time when running it on my µA1-C. The crash is in libcairo.so.
328gts wrote: just thinking that most (if not all) of these RC2 glitches could have been picked up by the many beta testers running all different hardware setups for OS4.1 before release so just wondering why the bros didn't go to them first ?
There's a potential conflict of interest if a third-party project suddenly takes a lot of resources from the beta test of the official OS. Ultimately, it boils down to: Would you like TW tested before the OS? And would Hyperion (the company, not specific persons which happen to be employed by said company while developing for that other project in their spare time).
See the conflict?
In practice, it might sometimes be possible, and sometimes not. But I do understand it if the Frieden Brothers are treading with great care. I would in their shoes.
well yes and no because Hyperion cannot argue that a solid running Timberwolf can ultimately only benefit the overall success of AmigaOS moving forward
328gts wrote: just thinking that most (if not all) of these RC2 glitches could have been picked up by the many beta testers running all different hardware setups for OS4.1 before release so just wondering why the bros didn't go to them first ?
That's like betatesting a beta test version. Whether we release it to our beta testers first (which don't really have anything to do with the project) or to the general public for testing doesn't make much of a difference.
Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.