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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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@all

Version 1.1 released and it's mutch better now


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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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People who effectively uses FlipPaper,

could you say me if you encounters some slowdowns using FlipPaper when changing backdrops ?

It seems that the last version fixed doesn't work for Kas1e, around 10 seconds to change a backdrop.

Of course, for me no slowdown...

Thank for your reply
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Quote:

zzd10h wrote:

People who effectively uses FlipPaper,

could you say me if you encounters some slowdowns using FlipPaper when changing backdrops ?

It seems that the last version fixed doesn't work for Kas1e, around 10 seconds to change a backdrop.

Of course, for me no slowdown...

Thank for your reply
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no problems here at all for me on my X1000 with latest updates from AmiUpdate. Pictures flip every minute and instantly and that's with the previous version as I haven't installed the new one yet.

btw, one issue I have is that now I have to go into the 'auto' screen and hit start at every bootup. It would be great if this starts automatically every time WB boots up.

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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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Thank you for your confirmation.
I don't know what happen on this other system...

For the auto-start at each boot, yes, it is possible.

In the Auto tab, you have a "User-Startup ?" button.

Hit it and reply "Yes".
Your User-Startup will be opened with the correct command put in Clipboard.

Just "Edit / Paste" in Notepad menu.

A block of command will be pasted with the correct drawer, nothing to modify.

Personally I have it in the beginning of my User-Startup, no problem.

Thanks to say me if it's OK for you.

The new version corrects some bugs, allows multi-selection to mass-change layout.

Others could confirm that no problem during switch of pictures ?
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no problems here at all for me on my X1000 with latest updates from AmiUpdate. Pictures flip every minute and instantly and that's with the previous version as I haven't installed the new one yet.


Did you try my step to reproduce slowdowns ? I.e. exactly like i describe, not every minutes flips. Try also to choice any image (of big enough size, like 1440x900), and press "test", and compare the speed with speed of wbpattern, will it the same or slower ?

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Kasle :
You spoke me about 10-15 seconds freeze between pictures.

For me "Test" button, auto-swap or WBPattern take the same time to display some big pictures.

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Quote:

You spoke me about 10-15 seconds freeze between pictures.


Nope, i never says about 10-15 seconds freeze between pictures. I says about 4 slowdowns, and only one of them are 10-15 seconds, when i just run program, do "add image", and press "test" button. Then everything slows, cpu 100% for about 15 seconds, and only then choicen image showups as backdrop.


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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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#kas1e

Could it be that you have those pictures on a different partition table that the program did't support's so good?

Just an idea.

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OK, I have understood,

1) Is it the same behaviour if you drag the picture in the window instead to use "Add picture" ?

2) During the big freeze, is the thumbnail of the picture displayed ?

3) Is the same problem with "Set as wallpaper" button

4) Is FastView load quickly the same picture ?

5) Do you have a non beta test system to test ?

Thank you for your replies and for your help finding the problem

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1) Is it the same behaviour if you drag the picture in the window instead to use "Add picture" ?


Yes. It doesn't matter if i choice "add image" from RMB menu, or drap&drop that image to list: in all the cases when i press "test" button it takes about 10 seconds.

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2) During the big freeze, is the thumbnail of the picture displayed ?


Thumbnail shows in main window rigth after i add image to it (via add image, or via d&d the same). I.e. till that moment all fast. Slowdown on 15 secs happens only when i press "test" button, and wb backdrop should changes.

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3) Is the same problem with "Set as wallpaper" button


Can't found such button in flippaper. Where it should be ?

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4) Is FastView load quickly the same picture ?


In FastView the same image show ups very fast and as should (i.e. thumb done pretty fast, and when i dbl-click on it it show image in full size with no problems too, in 1 second).

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Do you have a non beta test system to test ?


Nope..


Btw, FastView loads very fast by itself (without slowdown at running), and closes fast too (without slowdown too).

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Re: FlipPaper wallpaper changer
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@zzd10h

Ok, as i expected, those "slowdowns" was a bugs-errors thrown on serial via memguard which i all the time running at background together with debug version of kernel.

That what we have when we just run FlipPaper by dbl-click on icon:

MEMGUARD HIT "FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 6018B4B8 in AllocVecTagList(66018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000006 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 28822082 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000006 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AEE8 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CEE8
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000006 in AllocVecTagList(66018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000006 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 28822082 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000006 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AEE8 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CEE8
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000000 in AllocVecTagList(66018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000006 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 28822082 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000006 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AEE8 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CEE8
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 6018B4B8 in AllocVecTagList(796018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000004F 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822048 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000004F 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000006 in AllocVecTagList(796018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000004F 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822048 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000004F 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000000 in AllocVecTagList(796018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000004F 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822048 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000004F 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 601AFBF0 in AllocVecTagList(1216018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000079 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000079 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000006 in AllocVecTagList(1216018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000079 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000079 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000000 in AllocVecTagList(1216018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 00000079 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 00000079 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 641CE510 in AllocVecTagList(1236018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000007B 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000007B 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000006 in AllocVecTagList(1236018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000007B 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000007B 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

MEMGUARD HIT 
"FlipPaper" (665EC9D0)
Unknown tag 00000000 in AllocVecTagList(1236018B448)
 
06018B3B0 6018B3A0 00000000 020C2BEC 0000007B 6018B448 00000001 8000000F
 8
8000000B 6018B448 8000000A 00000008 24822044 63F555F4 65B60040 7E6C1B38
16
62254494 622542EC 62254184 604B7A3C 604B6CA4 604B68FC 604B63EC 604B6244
24
604B609C 604872B4 6047E57C 604B6CA4 65B60040 020A0000 0000007B 020C2BEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 00000001 "FlipPaper" segment 0000 offset 0000
----> 7E6C1B38 "LIBS:muimaster.library" segment 0005 offset 2B38
----> 020A0000 "kernel" segment 0001 offset 20000
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
LR    
01827070 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
CTR   7FBA5BE4 
"work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 8BE4

Stack backtrace
:
----> 01827070 : 
"kernel" segment 0000 offset 27070
----> 7F95AF94 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset CF94
----> 7F96AB08 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1CB08
----> 7F96C5E4 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 1E5E4
----> 01B4E804 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 20A4
----> 01B4F4B4 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2D54
----> 01B4F648 "newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2EE8
----> 7F94E190 "FlipPaper" segment 0005 offset 0190
----> 01977258 : 
"dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 23378
----> 0186A824 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A824
----> 0186A8A4 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 6A8A4

Disassembly
:
 0182706
C4E800421     bctrl
 
01827070: 801D94F0     lwz     r0,-27408(r29)
 01827074: 
3C800200     lis     r4,512
 
01827078: 7C7E1B78     mr      r30,r3
 
0182707C38847224     addi    r4,r4,29220

68k context
:
DATA6884D58E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6018AB80

68k Stack backtrace
:
----> 
020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01865E80 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 65E80
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 01821FEC "kernel" segment 0000 offset 21FEC
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01827004 : "kernel" segment 0000 offset 27004
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FB9D170 "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0170
----> 7FBA0F5C "work:debug/memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 3F5C
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 01820D14 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 20D14
----> 020C2BEC "kernel" segment 0001 offset 42BEC
----> 0184C934 "kernel" segment 0000 offset 4C934
----> 63988000 "OWB" segment 0004 offset 67FC0

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@zzd10h

That 15 seconds slowdown when we press "test" button, its because of heavy logs from memguard too. Crashlog is big enough, so i upload it here:
http://kas1e.mikendezign.com/temp/fli ... ecs_test_button_crash.txt


Dunno if you use memguard on your system, but if not you for sure should to use debug version of kernel + memguard at top of it, it will help to catch bugs which can't be catched by kernel/GR, and run it like:

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run >NIL: work:debug/memguard/memguard DumpWall ShowFails


As far as i can see, all memguard hits in all the cases are the same "Unknown tag xxxxxxx in AllocVecTagList".

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All these problems just by starting FlipPaper... wouah!

I have to look at AllocVecTags if I understand well.

Last thing, to reproduce it, if I

1) boot with
setenv os4_commandline "DEBUGLEVEL 5"

2) launch Sashimi

3) launch Memguard without argument

is the behaviour will be the same ?

Or have I to
"DEBUGLEVEL 5 SERIAL" and plug a serial wire ?

Many thanks.

edit : see your last post.
Thank you, will do it :)

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Problem reproduced by using "DEBUGLEVEL 5" + Memguard + Sashimi.

Resolved (at least on my system) by replacing AllocVecTags / FreeVec by AllocMem / FreeMem.

Kas1e, I sent you by mail a fixed (I hope) version,
could you test it, please ?

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The memguard hits are happening because I forgot to add TAG_DONE to the AllocVecTags call. Dunno why. I must be stupid or something. Or an alcoholic. Or a mental patient. Or buddah with no connection to earth and people and rules of coding and such. Or maybe I just weren't paying attention. Anyways, sorry people, it should be fixed for the next version. :)

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I will try tomorrow,
Thank you Alfkil

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Check mail (but problems fixed, yep). Keep in mind btw, that when 20 ppls say "thanks" and "good work" it doesn't mean they heavy test it :)

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And it's not their goal to "test" it, they only use it.

If someone wants to test, he has to become betatester, not a user.

So if users say thanks, it's because the program fulfills their needs and they do not have to test it heavily.

So yes, Guillaume, good work and thanks !

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Facepalm on every phrase.

There no needs to play with words and bring me your logic which i do not like. Should or not should. Bugs was here, users didn't notice them before, but dancing banana come. Someone who only want money (i.e. me), found a bugs, report them and they was fixed. Instead of protect typical fanboys style .. blah whatever. I don't like you too, so just skip my posts in future and i will skip yours.

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