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Re: NetSurf development builds (now with added Javascript)
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Chris I just updated the italian part of the FatMessage, please when you can commit it into the main repo

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=04558207108353124556

I have also a request, in latest nightly i saw that you updated the menu and this is good because now they are better, however can you modify them in order to open them *below* the mouse pointer instead of "in the middle" as they are currently are ?

Thanks !

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Ta. Does this include the recent Dutch update?

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I have also a request, in latest nightly i saw that you updated the menu and this is good because now they are better, however can you modify them in order to open them *below* the mouse pointer instead of "in the middle" as they are currently are ?


In Workbench GUI Prefs, in Menus, toggle the "Context menus open" option. You can select centred (for some reason the default), or corner (more traditional).

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Ta. Does this include the recent Dutch update?


No, sadly the Duch modifications was applied later

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In Workbench GUI Prefs, in Menus, toggle the "Context menus open" option. You can select centred (for some reason the default), or corner (more traditional).


Ops completely forgot this option !
Problem solved

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Found a bug in NS-3.3055 nightly, i had a session when i did some spare copy and paste using the contextmenu .. no crash when i play with them however when i close NetSurf i got this one:

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Crash log for task "NetSurf"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.19
Crash occured in module clipboard.device at address 0x6D48C8BC
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception
Alert number: 0x80000003

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: 0181B9E4 58614EA0 00000000 533092D4 53309328 541F9350 000000D0 02014564
8: 01947B6C 00000008 541F941C 021CDCC2 020B9CE4 510B31C8 00000000 53EA8680
16: 58615000 00000000 58615008 00000000 58615004 42E27190 8000001E 58A35CA0
24: 510B0000 00000000 6FE38A0C 4A1C4820 510B0000 510B0000 020B9CE4 00240080


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 866 736 0
4: 36 127.8 53.8 2.14748e+09
8: 18 128 1 nan
12: 1 754 3.39519e-313 -0
16: 0 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 1.61895e-319
24: 0 0 0 -1.28745e+36
28: 0 1.35808e-312 1.3581e-312 -3.40282e+38

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0xA2004100


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002F030
Condition (cr) : 0x42763D80
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x6D48C8BC
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x018193D0
Count (ctr) : 0x427640F8
Link (lr) : 0x0002000E
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x41827E1C
Data Address (dar) : 0x427640F8



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x6D48C8BC belongs to module "clipboard.device" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
module DEVS:clipboard.device at 0x6D48C8BC (section 4 @ 0x898)
native kernel module kernel+0x0001b9e4
native kernel module ramlib.kmod+0x0000150c
module LIBS:iffparse.library at 0x6FFB927C (section 5 @ 0x2258)
ami_clipboard_free()+0x70 (section 1 @ 0x3F10)
[amiga/gui.c:2941] gui_quit()+0x100 (section 1 @ 0x127CC)
[desktop/netsurf.c:244] netsurf_exit()+0x3c (section 1 @ 0x121518)
[amiga/gui.c:5466] main()+0xad4 (section 1 @ 0x1FBBC)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000020ac
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d5c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002ef0
_start()+0x170 (section 1 @ 0x16C)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x00024c18
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b648
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b6c8

PPC disassembly:
6d48c8b4: 83e30010 lwz r31,16(r3)
6d48c8b8: 93a10014 stw r29,20(r1)
*6d48c8bc: a01f0020 lhz r0,32(r31)
6d48c8c0: 83df0074 lwz r30,116(r31)
6d48c8c4: 2f800000 cmpwi cr7,r0,0

System information:

CPU
Model: AMCC PPC440EP V1.3
CPU speed: 799 MHz
FSB speed: 133 MHz
Extensions:

Machine
Machine name: Sam440EP
Memory: 1048576 KB
Extensions: bus.pci

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@samo79

I've seen this before, but it's random. Put it on the bugtracker, please.

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Weird crashes began to happen when the iconify function was implemented and it happens when I use it randomly here. There are no pattern, it works fine most of the time but suddenly it crashes.

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Does OS4 give you a crashlog?

Also: Bug tracker

Random speculation: Could be something trying to update the display whilst it is iconified, like a GIF anim or something. I can't remember off-hand exactly how the iconification is implemented.

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I haven't tried NetSurf in a long time so I D/L the latest compile and did a very little testing and found these problems:

1. Netsurf opens it's splash window on Workbench even though I have it set to open on a named public screen.

2. The Netsurf font size is set to 14 and the bottom text gadget appears to be sized for size 14 text but it's rendering with my screen text size which is 18. The text overwrites the bottom border as a result.

3. I see a "NSOPTS" argument when I enter "Netsurf ?" in a shell. I can't find any description of that argument in the Netsurf guide.

4. I keep my System and Work partitons locked which is causing system freezes when NetSurf can't initialize. When I start Netsurf it pops up requesters notifying me that the disk is write protected. When I cancel the requesters, the netsurf splash window remains on Workbench and my system freezes.

I don't see why the Netsurf initialization should fail if it can't write to ENVARC:AppDir but that's your choice. I would think Netsurf would still function if that write fails.

I'd like to request a prefs item to set where the 'users' directory is located because I keep programs on a locked partition.

Amiga X1000 with 2GB memory & OS 4.1FE + Radeon HD 5450

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1. That's what it is supposed to do.

2. It will always use the screen font for that, however it obviously should fit. Do you have a screenshot?

3. It's for NetSurf core parameters. I'll add a note.

4. Can you put this on the bugtracker please? I'll forget otherwise. It shouldn't fail or crash there.

4b. The prefs are stored in the user directory, so it'll require a tooltype/arg. Another one for the bugtracker please.

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1. I would think the splash window should open on the public screen it's going to open on but it's not really important.

2. I have a screengrab. Is there somewhere I should upload it or send it?

3. O.K.

4a & 4b. It's late tonight so I'll get these in the bug tracker tommorrow morning.

Thanks for your work on Netsurf.

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2. Chuck it on a server somewhere, or attach it to a bug report, or email it to me.

4a. I had a quick look at this whilst I was waiting for something else, and have probably stopped the crashing although I didn't test it. Have a look before raising that report in case it's fixed already.

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2. Emailed the screen grab as an attachment.

4.a The new changes haven't shown up at the beta site yet so I'll check again later and see if the crash (freeze) is fixed.

4.b I filed a bug report requesting an arg/tooltype or prefs setting for the location of the 'user' directory.



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2/4a. Yeah, the CI builder is stuck. I suspect Vince is already aware and what needs resetting is somewhere he can't get to until Monday.

4b. When you raise bug reports make sure the project is set to "NetSurf" (although I've figured out how to move them between projects now )

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I installed Dev build 3222 for testing. The new USERSDIR tooltype resolves my issues with write-protected partitions. I noticed that the NetSurf installer is altering some of my system default icons (like SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/def_bmp.info) by adding a tooltype. I don't think that's a good idea for the following reasons:

1. Users who develop problems with their systems are frequently recommended to reinstall the OS from the CD. Any altered default icons will be gone at that point.

2. Users download icon packages and sometimes replace default icons with new ones that they prefer.

3. Future OS4 updates or releases might replace some or all of the default icons.

The bottom line is that if NetSurf doesn't need or use those toolype settings in the system default icons then it's a useless step in the installation. If those tooltype settings are needed then the continued presence of the icons with those tooltypes is not assured for the reasons stated above and another method should be considered.

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@xenic

That's because AmigaOS has no concept of MIME types, and NetSurf needs them. However, a lot has changed since then so I probably need to check if modifying the tooltypes is still necessary.

NetSurf does now do MIME probing, and local files are additionally guessed with some other methods (most notably datatypes, and there's a MIME mapping file to help with this).

The main problem was local CSS files were not being detected with the correct MIME type, meaning layouts were screwed up. If a "full save" works without the default icon changes, then they aren't needed.

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The main problem was local CSS files were not being detected with the correct MIME type, meaning layouts were screwed up. If a "full save" works without the default icon changes, then they aren't needed.

O.K. I just thought it was worth mentioning.

Today I encountered a page that won't load. It partially loads and says "processing" in the bottom status bar but never fully loads. NetSurf becomes unresponsive and my pointer gets 'jerky'. Odyssey changes the URL to https from http and loads the page. RA OWB loads it as http. I have to reboot to get rid of the jerky mouse and slowed system operation. Here is the problem site:http://sourceforge.net/projects/dopus5allamigas/?source=directory

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O.K. I just thought it was worth mentioning.


Yes, it was. It appears to not be necessary any more, so I'll remove it.

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Today I encountered a page that won't load. It partially loads and says "processing" in the bottom status bar but never fully loads. NetSurf becomes unresponsive and my pointer gets 'jerky'. Odyssey changes the URL to https from http and loads the page. RA OWB loads it as http. I have to reboot to get rid of the jerky mouse and slowed system operation. Here is the problem site:http://sourceforge.net/projects/dopus5allamigas/?source=directory


I can't reproduce this, but unresponsive and jerky is usually either:
* about to crash, possibly because the stack is set too low
* running out of graphics mem
* prefs=>rendering=>cache native versions set to "none"

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I can't reproduce this,

I tried it again several times and the results are not consistant. Sometimes NetSurf loads the page without the jpeg screen shots and the program description and doesn't freeze. Other times it doesn't load the page, the status bar says processing and the 'sleep' pointer is displayed. I'll do some more testing after the holiday.

By the way, I still have a bunch of SOBJS that were installed for earlier versions of NetSurf. Since they are not included in the current dev archive, can I remove those now?

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I tried it again several times and the results are not consistant. Sometimes NetSurf loads the page without the jpeg screen shots and the program description and doesn't freeze. Other times it doesn't load the page, the status bar says processing and the 'sleep' pointer is displayed. I'll do some more testing after the holiday.


Try with Javascript disabled. It might be Javascript related, in which case it'll definitely need to be raised on the bugtracker.

A log (NetSurf -v *>ram:ns.log) is very useful as well if you can reproduce it with log output it might help identify where the problem lies.

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By the way, I still have a bunch of SOBJS that were installed for earlier versions of NetSurf. Since they are not included in the current dev archive, can I remove those now?


Yes, with the caveat that something else might be using them.

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