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Aladdin 4D compatibility problem
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Good day all,

The other day, I decided to do some modeling and rendering with Aladdin 4D. It was the first time I've tried it under OS4.1 FE. A4D triggered a grim reaper. I clicked on "continue program" only to have another grim reaper that only gave the option of killing the program or rebooting the SAM460ex. I rebooted.

I checked compatibility prefs, making sure that A4D was in the list. It was. I imagine that A4D somehow conflicts with 4.1 FE. Hopefully A-Eon will release a OS4.1 native A4D in the next few years 8^)

I then tried using Run-in-UAE to start A4D. It would not load A4D. I checked the configuration, changed 68000 to 68020, and tried A4D again. It would not start.

What do I need to do to get A4D running in UAE?

Sold the SAM460ex lite... waiting for money for X5000 or A1222 and OS 4.2
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Re: Aladdin 4D compatibility problem
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@interrogative

Aladdin4D won't start on my 4000T under os3.1, let alone under e-uae. It does run under os3.5/3.9 with e-uae. Not sure it works 100% the same as on a classic, it does give me the yellow alert on quit & I need to quit e-uae to get out of it.

Look, only one leg, count em, one!
X1000/PA6T@1800MHz/2Gb/Radeon 4850

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Re: Aladdin 4D compatibility problem
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@sundown

Crash log for task "Aladdin4D"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.19
Crash occured in module kernel at address 0x01812804
Type of crash
unknown exception
Alert number
0x00000000

Register dump
:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
   
0: 01818F44 578CDCF0 00000000 0181281C 600D53D0 0227B210 0227B200 0227B270 
   8
00000001 00000000 00000001 80000017 24822044 00000000 578D1FFC 578BE004 
  16
14CBD801 00000000 8000000F 8000000E 8000000D 02320000 FFFFFFFF 00000000 
  24
8000000A 80000008 578CDCE0 00000001 0227E012 600D53D0 02169D34 00000001 


FPR 
(Floating Point RegistersNaN Not a Number):
   
0:              nan               80     2.56356e-113     3.26302e-292 
   4
:    -3.85121e-288      -3.6346e+16     5.09939e+298               64 
   8
:               64                1               64               64 
  12
:              256              nan      4.04768e+18        -0.195558 
  16
:    -1.40669e-300      5.78843e+13       9.4095e+08     9.56185e+244 
  20
:     -2.16205e+17     -2.19921e+17     2.98364e-295     1.42979e+276 
  24
:      4.02053e+13     1.46574e-278    -1.84208e+297      -2.3088e+18 
  28
:     -1.77927e-30     -1.77166e-74      2.66349e+36      -1.1863e-20 

FPSCR 
(Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82000000


SPRs 
(Special Purpose Registers):
           
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002B030
                Condition 
(cr) : 0x5508ED80
      Instruction Pointer 
(ip) : 0x01812804
       Xtended Exception 
(xer) : 0x0181A874
                   Count 
(ctr) : 0x5508F0F8
                     Link 
(lr) : 0x0002000E
            DSI Status 
(dsisr) : 0x5913AA4C
            Data Address 
(dar) : 0x5508F0F8



680x0 emulated registers
:
DATA00000000 00000028 00000000 00000000 FFFFFFFF FFD50001 FFD60001 00000000 
ADDR
578CDD9C 578CDDF4 5F1E63D2 600D53D0 52DC7008 5F1E63D2 6FF6E4D0 578CDD94 
FPU0
:                0                0                0                0 
FPU4
:                0                0                0                0 



Symbol info
:
Instruction pointer 0x01812804 belongs to module "kernel" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
    
native kernel module kernel+0x00012804
    native kernel module kernel
+0x00018e64
    native kernel module intuition
.library.kmod+0x00001cb0
    native kernel module intuition
.library.kmod+0x00001bc4
    native kernel module intuition
.library.kmod+0x00025294
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0005a15c
    native kernel module kernel
+0x00a7e012

PPC disassembly
:
 018127
fc6063281c   ori               r3,r3,10268
 
01812800: 44000002   sc                
*01812804: 4e800020   blr               
 
01812808: 7c641b78   mr                r4,r3
 
0181280c3c600181   lis               r3,385

System information
:

CPU 
 Model
AMCC PPC460EX V1.2 
 CPU speed
1017 MHz 
 FSB speed
203 MHz 
 Extensions
:  

Machine 
 Machine name
Sam460ex 
 Memory
2097152 KB 
 Extensions
bus.pci bus.pcie 

Expansion buses 
 PCI
/AGP 
  00
:04.0 Vendor 0x1095 Device 0x3512 
   Range 0
00001000 - 00001008 (IO
   
Range 1: 00001008 - 00001010 (IO
   
Range 200001010 - 00001018 (IO
   
Range 3: 00001018 - 00001020 (IO
   
Range 400001020 00001030 (IO
  
00:06.0 Vendor 0x126F Device 0x0501 
   Range 0
84000000 88000000 (MEM
   
Range 188000000 88200000 (MEM
  
05:00.0 Vendor 0xACBE Device 0x0001 
  06
:00.0 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0x944C 
   Range 0
A0000000 B0000000 (PREF.MEM
   
Range 2B0000000 B0010000 (MEM
   
Range 400002000 00002100 (IO
  
06:00.1 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0xAA30 
   Range 0
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Sorry to say a GR log doesn't help. OS4 graphics is changing, so only a native os4 port is going to work for us. I have spent some time trying to get it working & it does start on my x1000, but modeling is no good, but I can do a very fast render if I import a scene from a classic machine.

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Good day all,

The other day, I decided to do some modeling and rendering with Aladdin 4D. It was the first time I've tried it under OS4.1 FE. A4D triggered a grim reaper. I clicked on "continue program" only to have another grim reaper that only gave the option of killing the program or rebooting the SAM460ex. I rebooted.

I checked compatibility prefs, making sure that A4D was in the list. It was. I imagine that A4D somehow conflicts with 4.1 FE.
...



And how does this problem (SAM460ex under OS4.1 FE) qualify for the "Amiga Classic" board?

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Oops. I put the query in the wrong forum. Of course, Aladdin4D is for OS 2.04 and above.

If an administrator could put this in the correct forum, it would be appreciated.

Thank you,


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In any case AmigaOS4.1 Classic runs on Classic Amiga, and Classic programs runs on AmigaOS4.1

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V5 works in my 4.1u6 and 4,1FE partitions.

SAM 440 Flex 800.

In 4.1u6 gives Grim Reaper at close, but the Miggy don't hangs, I kill it, and still works.

In 4.1 FE, Grim Reaper when close, and hangs the Miggy.

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In any case AmigaOS4.1 Classic runs on Classic Amiga, ...



But just as long as you happen to own an PPC accelerator card (like I do)...

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