I just hope that the same thing that happened to eyetech doesn't happen to acube, ie the bulk of people waits for them to release something better but since the early products didn't sell enough, better never happens.
I think the Sam is only a downgrade in terms of pure CPU performance. Everything else would be better/faster. I am comparing it to the MicroA1 in this case.
Of course your XE with additional slots does count for something...in this case you should compare it to the Flex board :)
i would prefer the Flex board too. Without propper SCSI support any OS4 system is for me only a side-car to my good running A4k/060 WITH SCSI support.
So i will the SAM only use as 24/7 online server and proxy and to DL with Amigift ...[and to have OS4 :P ] And dont need the power of the R9Mobility. [a cheap gfx card do this job well]
I Hope, now with HW on the horizont, a better SCSI driver is coming soon .....
I slowly switch from my A4k to WinUAE on IBM Workstation. And here i HAVE very good SCSI support.[from the WinUAE side too] [slowly BUT constant]
Yeah, I would like to buy a Sam440ep-flex. Now, please?
And I certainly wouldn't mind some extra speed either. Although I am pretty confident that GCC compiles faster on the Sam440ep-flex/667 MHz than on my SE with G3/600. Even more so as my SE is falling apart and I can no longer use DMA with my SII0680 card.
I sent a mail to ACube yesterday but I guess they need a few days to process all the mails they got now...
I'd like a !+Ghz sam too. But think i'll be getting me the best sam when i can afford it. Will place itsleves nice with the other os4 machines. Mainly cos i want to support my favorite os.
Radov wrote: I wish that ACube will alter the Sam Flex design with AMCC 460EX 1,2 GHz cpu...
Unless it's a simple chip and oscillator swap, I hope that they don't alter the design at all. IMHO, nothing that delays the release is worth it. Plus, with all the complaints about price, increasing the speed (and hence, the cost) won't help. Maybe this could be a revised model for later.
The SAM boards have been primarily developed for the embedded market, hence the choice of chip. This is not, AFAIK, likely to change in the near future.
The hardware that is advertised for sale, is available, and as the Amiga tradition has always been, the choice is yours. Buy it, or don't buy it.
The future success relies on good sales of current products, like in most commercial entities. If you wish to wait for future products, your wait might be longer than expected.
Rigo wrote: The SAM boards have been primarily been developed for the embedded market, hence the choice of chip. This is not, AFAIK, likely to change in the near future.
The hardware that is advertised for sale, is available, and as the Amiga tradition has always been, the choice is yours. Buy it, or don't buy it.
The future success relies on good sales of current products, like in most commercial entities. If you wish to wait for future products, your wait might be longer than expected.
Well said Simon totally agree if they don't get the sales now, they might think whats the point in making anymore hardware for the Amiga OS.
No sales......No Future
I'll be getting one, ............Hello miss Piggy bank....What? ..No No this sledge Hammer won't hurt honest!!!
This Puny World will bow down to Professor Chaos Prepare for the greatest Villan you have ever seen!!
The future success relies on good sales of current products
The 533 MHz model has already sold out. And it's only a matter of time (I think/hope) when 667 MHz model is too. And we haven't seen that Flex model on the market yet.
Rock lobster bit me - so I'm here forever X1000 + AmigaOS 4.1 FE "Anyone can build a fast CPU. The trick is to build a fast system." - Seymour Cray
Yes I'm looking keenly at the Flex too. Locally the radeon 9250 PCI cards are 2 to 3 times the price of AGP 9250s. I'm wondering why we do not see PCI-e slots yet.
I also want to know if a driver for the zigbee option has been developed for OS 4.1. I have an A1 but the prospect of being able to monitor remote sensors and operate remote equipment would make for a practical and fun computer.
I wouldn't exactly mind a nice Sam - that mac-like case that Acube has looks very pretty.
However, I have only just bought 512 mb of ram for the micro this monday (waiting for delivery along with OS4.1) so I don't think I have money right now.
So, I still think that my 800mhz with the extra ram will see me through the following year. Also, the girlfriend already thinks I am spending too much money on this!
If only I could use a better graphics card more easily...
But I will say this - The Sam is not expensive - not by Amiga standards.
I paid about 1000 euro for my micro with 256mb, 80gb hd, cd-rom and case... So I would buy the Sam in an instant if I hadn't got an AmigaONE already.
I'd like new h/w to back up my micro. The SAM doesn't appear to be much better then what I have, but it does have USB 2 & more gfx memory to run 4.1. Now consider this, it does have a working (I hope) PCI connector. You could put a riser card in there with & a 9250 gfx card & have some expansion, something we don't have with the micro. There are questions that need to be answered & the right answers could make the SAM look a whole lot better.
Look, only one leg, count em, one! X1000/PA6T@1800MHz/2Gb/Radeon 4850
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I have SE also and I would like to see 1GHz+ machine too (with more than 1 PCI slot).
No sales......No Future 
honest!!! 
