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Hi,

I am trying to play video files using DVPlayer but it doesn't display anything. So I am using the very good MPlayer.

Any ideas why DVPlayer doesn't show anything while MPlayer does?

Also can you run two movies at the same time? For example two instances of MPlayer with two different films or DVPlayer (if it worked) and MPlayer at the same time, two different films?

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What "codecs" are used for the two movie files?,
does mplayer recognise the packets in the datastream
while DVplayer does not?

Can you expand further with information about the content of the two movie files themselves regardless of the content?

Theora Video with Vorbis Audio encoded within an OGM file?

Mpeg4 Video with Mpeg3 Audio in AVI or MKV ?

Dolby or DTS 5.1 channel Audio? Stereo Audio ?

What is the video size?

PAL/NTSC bitrates for digital playback?

Do you know any of what I am asking?

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Also can you run two movies at the same time? For example two instances of MPlayer with two different films or DVPlayer (if it worked) and MPlayer at the same time, two different films?


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>>What "codecs" are used for the two movie files?

No idea, how do I find out?

>>does mplayer recognise the packets in the datastream
while DVplayer does not?

No idea what you are talking about DVPlayer loads it but it won't display anything and also the sound is not there, just a black screen.

Using MPlayer everything is lovely

>>Can you expand further with information about the content of the two movie files themselves regardless of the content?

They are .mpg files (Toy Story 2 and Alien).

>>Do you know any of what I am asking?

Not really


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So you can't play two movies at the same time?

What happened to Amiga's multitasking!

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If you are using a radeon HD, you must disable overlay,
because if I remember right the HD drivers doesn't
support overlay.
If overlay works, only one overlay window can exist
so if you start a second DVPlayer or MPlayer,
the second (the third, fourth, etc.) cannot use overlay

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@TheDaddy

You can play two films at once BUT you probably don't have the processor power unless you are running at more than 700Mhz. I can play 4 movies at once with no slowdown on my X1000, either dvplayer or mplayer or both together.

To find out what the files your trying to play are run dvplayer from a shell and use the verbose option.

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Thanks...how do I run it from the shell in verbose mode? What is the command please?

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See DvPlayer_Manual.pdf please.

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Found it!

It kept skipping in AmiPDF...

OK so I have started from shell and this is what I get:

Wall-E.mpg
Video: 0, 480 x 240, 25.00 fps
Audio: 01 [MPA] 16-bit 32000 Hz, Mono


When I stop it I get:

Total Nr of Frames: 0
Nr of Frames played: 0
Nr of Frames skipped: 0 (101%)
Total Playback Time: 116.098 seconds
Average Framerate: 0.000 fps
Displayed Framerate: 0.000 fps

Any ideas?

Same film plays fine in MPlayer.

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I'm curious to compare with what MPlayer detects for video and audio codecs.

If using the MPlayer GUI, please checkmark MPlayer/GUI/Show Mplayer output in a console, start playback, and paste the results here for the video and audio codecs it detects.

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Another idea is that they are not mpg but mp4 as dvplayer gives 0 as the video type.

an mpg file gives: Video: MPEG, 512 x 384, 25.00 fps
an mp4 file gives: Video: 0, 480 x 240, 25.00 fps

DVPlayer DOES NOT support mp4...

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In my experience DVPlayer will play MPG and AVI files, but cannot handle MKV or MP4. (Caveat: AVI is a little tricky, since it is possible for it to use a codec that isn't supported by DVPlayer. I think this is usually rare though.)

Severin's idea that your MPG file is actually a mis-named MP4 file is interesting.

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I think you might be right, I think these are .MP4 files renamed to .mpg...so it means that DVPlayer is not able to play them while MPlayer can.

But I would like to try and run two or three films at once can I?

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And...can I run Quake 1 and 2 at the same time? Or a film and Quake 1/2?


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But I would like to try and run two or three films at once can I?


Use muimplayer with cgx_wpa driver. You can do it from gui (check settings), and from command line as well (check docs).

By default, muimplayer check if your drivers support overlay or not , and if yes (old radeons), then it swith to p96-overlay mode (only one video at time possible), if drivers do not have overlay (new radeonHD, on sam460 and x1000 for example), then it switch automatically to cgx_wpa driver, what mean no overlay, all done via cpu, but you can run as much of the videos as your cpu can handle.

So if you have radeon with overlay support, and still want many videos at time, change in settings to use cgx_wpa by default. But that of course will be slower in compare with p96_overlay

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Thanks kas1e, how do I check if the M9 Radeon supports overlay or not? I have selected cgx_wpa driver but it still runs only one at the time. Thanks!

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Just after running go to settings and check what driver you use by default.

Anyway, if you have only one video at time, i assume that you have overlay working, and so, by default that p96_pip. To make cgx_wpa working all the time, go to settings, choice cgx_wpa, press "save" and restart. Or you can run mplayer, choice cgx_wpa, use, and then open a video. Then run new versino of mplayer (which will be still use p96_pip, if you not choice save), and so on.

For now i have 3 version of mumplayer on my screen, with different movies: 2 with usage of cgx_wpa, and one with p96_pip.

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Cool! It worked but as you said it slows everything down, I have managed one cgx_WPA and one P96 but it did work, two films at the same time. Thanks again!

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