Amicygnix

What is it exactly?

And is there a list of the applications you can run?

Thanks!

@TheDaddy
Just type on os4depot "cygnix" (but do not forget to tick number of files to 200, as it 50 by default, and will show you not everything).

You need this atleast.

http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... k/misc/amicygnix-base.lha

And you can find gimp which is a nice gfx program. And install the update afterwards. Xsane is a nice scanner software. That's the programs i use with cygnix. Are some more though!

Amicygnix is an Unix Environment for Amiga, it does not (!) emulate Unix, just uses Unix X-Server and X-11 libs. Plus some common Unix Toolkits like GTK etc. Therefore it is a lot easier to port Linux Soft.
The Backside is:

looks and feels more like Linux
is quiet sluggish to use
no OS4 native menus/filerequester
takes a while to launch

I rather boot into PPC Linux and use Open Office instead of Abiword etc.
However some small apps like the scanner interface are really great.

Launches very fast here.

@Antique
Still not fast enough as can it be if it will be native :)

So it's not native? What do you mean? I thought it wasn't an emulator.

@TheDaddy
Its half of emulator. I.e. you run some environtment (x11), over which all the other progamms ported for it are works (like Gimp, Abiworld, Gnumeric and all the good stuff).

The problem, is that this environment is slow in terms of rendering of windowses, and reactions between menus. That lies somethere to the code of the cygnix itself.

So, while we have all that good linux based apps , and we can use it somehow, still, they a bit slow, a bit unreposive, non-intuitive, gui are non native, and so on. But it works at least, and when you have nothing better (like boot to linux on the same machine), or not have windows by hands, then it can be helpfull and usable.

@TheDaddy
So it's not native? What do you mean? I thought it wasn't an emulator.

ABCshell is the real deal. It's a version of BASH *Born Again shell) for Amiga. A big requirement for the cygnix/linux enviroment. As kas1e pointed out, it's the X11 Window system that is cumbersome.

@Antique

Show-off!

TrevorD

Trev,

The X1000...are they ready?

@Snuffy,kas1e,

Thanks for explaining.

@Trevor

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Already done

@Ellwood
seems to be lot faster/usable than on my SAM440@677. However, wondering wether large tables in Gnumeric will also scroll/process fast enough (autofilter, mousewheelscrolling,...). Eagerly waiting for my X1000

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A list of all applications you can find here:

http://www.schwan-clan.de/amiga/AmiCygnix.html


To AmiCygnix: As gerograph explained, AmiCygnix is NOT an Emulator! All programs are running natively on OS4, but the programs are using some Unix technologies. The main part is the X server for the gfx stuff, process communication and other things. Other parts are implemented by libraries like Glib and GTK. And all this is based on the OS4 network software, the TCP/IP stack "Roadshow".

We must be careful with the term "native". As explained above, AmiCygnix programs do not use the Amiga message system for communication, they use sockets. If this is not native for someone, he can't call sockets native too.

AmiCygnix does NOT deeply depend on the abc-shell! All programs can run without it! The Unix shell is important for development and for a bit more unix compatibility while launching the programs.

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Though it boots very fast and loading time of programs since very responsive as well (as if are natives), moving windows and scrolling in Abiword (while selecting text) is ultra sluggish. I can't really believe that anyone would recommend AmiCygnix even on a 460, at least for now.

@cygnusEd

I like very much Amicygnix!
But I really need that it get hw acceleration...I also think that a bounty can have big succes about that...

I tried it on a sam 533MHz 1-2 years ago and it was slowwwww. I hope its possible to speed it up or maybe its better on my future AmigaOne 500.

@Tuxedo
Yes, a bounty to get it hw acceleration would be nice. How much improvement can be done when it comes to speed?

AmiCygniX itself was pretty fast imho...
The only and real problem was that the gfx driver wasnt hw accelerated so screen refresh was slow also on "fast" AmigaOS computers...

it's quite useable (not laggy etc)on my XEG4 but quite slow on the sam440.

btw, the only stuff i have used is the SANE packages and thats about it