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Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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Hi All,

Is there a program that can convert any/all of the following formats; flash video, AVI, WMV, mpeg2, or MP4 to Ham 8 (or 6) video?

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Re: Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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Not completely sure what you mean by HAM 8 video.

Do you mean iff anim format?
With some scripting you could split any video into frames with mplayer ot ffmpeg and then combine the frames into an anim. ImageFX and PPaint are both candidates except PPaint doesn't do HAM (not sure about imagefx).

You realsie how big the files will be foranything but the smallest video?


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Hi broadblues,

Well, yes, take a MP4 movie and make an iff anim file that is stored frame by frame in Ham 8 colour mode.

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@Atheist

The anim bit is easy. HAM is the sticking point (if you want to do it on OS4 ) as I think you need the likes of dpaint 1V for HAM anims.

[edit] I notice this is the classic forum so Dpaint is available to you but is ffmpeg ?

Perhaps split files under AmigaOS4 or linux then transfer the frames for compiling into anim?

I did an experiment the other day, a 1000 frames of output from blender at 640x480 craeted an anim in excess of 100Mb in size. Played very fast though on my SAM

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Re: Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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Atheist, when you do wind up with individual numbered frames in ham format, you could most likely use an old free utility (check Aminet) called Rend24 to assemble them into anim format. Whether a particular classic Amiga setup has the horses to play that file at full speed is another matter. I used to manage playback of VistaPro ham8 animations on my A1200 with 50mhz 68030 but it required me to run my animations through Scala's built-in utility to save them in anim32 (I think) format. Good luck!

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Re: Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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@Atheist

If you're converting a video to HAM8, you're probably better off using CDXL rather than IFF ANIM.

(edit: there are some notes on the process here)


Edited by Chris on 2014/5/4 23:29:12
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Re: Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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CDXL at least if you need sound.

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Is CDXL capable of handling HAM?

Anyway, several ham video examples exist:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ham+video+amiga

Interesting anim/video format to play with on classic HW.

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Re: Any Program That Converts MP4, etc. To Ham 8/6?
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@KimmoK

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Is CDXL capable of handling HAM?


Yes, exclusively.

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@KimmoK

CDXL supports standard CLUT as well as HAM modes. Note that the palette is always limited to 4-bits per RGB component (even when using HAM8 format) so CDXL can't make full use of 24-bit AGA colourspace.

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Hello

My DatatypeToHam command may help to convert-to-ham/resize the frames
http://aminet.net/package/gfx/conv/DatatypeToHam

Alain Thellier

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Hi broadblues,

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I did an experiment the other day, a 1000 frames of output from blender at 640x480 craeted an anim in excess of 100Mb in size. Played very fast though on my SAM


Is it HAM 6 or 8? How many frames per second? Could I get that file, please?



Thanks mbrantley.


Thank you Chris.
It says there that ImageFX can make individual frames from mpeg, but it doesn't mention if MPeg2 or Mmp4 can be done as well. That post is from way back in 2004!!


Thanks Salass00.
I was hoping for highest colour capability, HAM8 anim with audio. So CDXL is out.

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@Atheist

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Thanks Salass00.
I was hoping for highest colour capability, HAM8 anim with audio. So CDXL is out.


Just to make it clear the limit only applies to the 64-colour palette in HAM8 you can still get up to 18-bit colour precision by using the hold and modify functionality of HAM.

If you have an AmigaOS 4.1 system and want an example of how it can look try recording something with SRec using it's CDXL output mode and playing it back with CDXLPlay.

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Is it HAM 6 or 8? How many frames per second? Could I get that file, please?


No it was a straight 8bit 256 colour anim5.
60 frames per second.
I deleted it, sorry.



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I think that our friend could use PC software to downgrade modern video files to plain old MPEG1, and then convert MPEG1 to ANIM format, or CDXL.

For CDXL converting tools IMHO you can check here:

http://cd32-allianz.de


Unfortunately I don't remember anymore if old program Video Converter CD32 was capable to load MPEG1 and then output CDXL format.


Edited by Raffaele1024KB on 2014/5/6 12:07:04
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Edited by Raffaele1024KB on 2014/5/6 12:12:26
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@Atheist

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It says there that ImageFX can make individual frames from mpeg, but it doesn't mention if MPeg2 or Mmp4 can be done as well. That post is from way back in 2004!!


Given the age of it, I'd suggest MPEG1 is all it can do. But that should be fine - it's the format VideoCD uses and the resolution capability is (IIRC) above that of CDXL.

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I was hoping for highest colour capability, HAM8 anim with audio. So CDXL is out.


CDXL is HAM8
Have a look at some of the videos on Aminet (just search for "CDXL"). The HAM8 variant is 3/4 screen and generally looks pretty good.

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There is a tutorial about HAM videos here
http://majsta.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9

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Is there any modern software reading, converting and creating CD32 FMV format? As long as nowadays has no need for dedicated hardware...

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Seeing Amiga600 to play 4096 colour video makes me again amazed how CBM managed to f*ck up so superior computer.

Even a (slightly) expanded A500 from y1987 could play better video than stock x86 in mid 90's !

(+ multimedia kiosk systems from 1997 played some post stamp size jerky videos etc... (some mac HW inside the box, unless windows error prompt was seen on top))

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CD32 FMV module played standard mpeg1 video. (I believe some PC mpeg1 cards had the same decoder chip)
So, those should be editable on any/every modern video editor (in mainstream).

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Hi KimmoK,


Yes, yes, all a joke, a big pathetic joke!


Had Amiga 1200 been a REAL 68030 computer at 14.24 MHz, and had AGA support 8 Chip Megs of RAM with 2 Megs chip and 2 Megs fast sold stock from the stores, and SIMM sockets on the motherboard so that you could add another 6 Megs of EACH on there!!!! (And a 68882 socket.)

Then NOBODY would have wasted CONSIDERABLE resources making 68030 accelerators. They would have jumped straight to 68040 and 68060 models.

It could have really used a VGA output too.

Things would have been VERY different today.

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