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Software News : Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Posted by cygnusEd on 2007/2/8 21:04:07 (2999 reads) News by the same author
Software News

The third prerelase of the X-Window environment Cygnix is now available on OS4-depot.

This are the most important changes:


* Support for GTK 2 and some related libraries. GTK 1 and 2 has now a working localisation.

* New window manager Enlightenment. Supports themes, virtual desktops, is highly configurable
and much more...

* Soundserver Esound from the gnome project for audio support.

* A documentation in amigaguide format.

* Everything is now PPC native. The GeekGadgets drawer was removed.

* The unix shell abc-shell is now included (Thanks to Henning Nielsen Lund!)

* Bugfixes.

Download from OS4Depot

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orgin
Published: 2007/2/8 21:35  Updated: 2007/2/8 21:35
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd

Any idea what might be missing to get putty to run using gtk under your cygnix?

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/8 22:20  Updated: 2007/2/8 22:20
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@orgin

> Any idea what might be missing to get putty to run using gtk under your cygnix?

The problem is, that we don't have unix terminal devices like "/dev/tty1". The ixemul.library emulates that.
I don't know, how to implement this.
hnl_dk
Published: 2007/2/8 23:09  Updated: 2007/2/8 23:09
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd
have you tried using "/console" or "/con" instead of "/dev/tty1"?
bean
Published: 2007/2/8 23:44  Updated: 2007/2/8 23:44
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Thank you for this release! Excellent work, and an excellent install procedure.

I'm already looking forward to the other apps I've seen screenshots of!

Cheers,
Bean.
spotUP
Published: 2007/2/9 3:24  Updated: 2007/2/9 3:24
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
HNL!!!!!
thank god! i was really worried there f6r a while! you've been away for far too long! really nice to see that you are still around! i miss my tutor! ;)
orgin
Published: 2007/2/9 5:27  Updated: 2007/2/9 5:27
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd

Does putty really use that? I though putty had its own built in terminal emulation (which is why it's much better than say openssh).
PEB
Published: 2007/2/9 6:58  Updated: 2007/2/9 6:58
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd

Thank you much for this release!

Just a couple of questions:

Is there a way that I can change the screen resolution of the X11 environment? If so, how?

Were you going to release a newer Gimp that lets you import/export in formats such as .jpg or .png?

Thanks.
afxgroup
Published: 2007/2/9 9:58  Updated: 2007/2/9 9:58
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Well done mate! I'm waiting for your fantastic libs now..
acefnq
Published: 2007/2/9 10:28  Updated: 2007/2/9 10:28
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@cugnusEd
Fantastic work. One thing though I have found that the script does install an assign in user-startup (plays havoc with Netpanzer) and that the start-cygnix script looks for that assign. Are the docs just incorrect at this stage?

cheers
ace
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/2/9 11:07  Updated: 2007/2/9 11:07
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
WoW !... it' s amazing..
Menthos
Published: 2007/2/9 13:46  Updated: 2007/2/9 13:46
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Good work! Will donate for sure soon (must get my own economics in order first)!

Any ETA for a new Amaya?
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/9 18:07  Updated: 2007/2/9 18:07
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@hnl_dk

> have you tried using "/console" or "/con" instead of "/dev/tty1"?

Yes I did, but no success

> Does putty really use that? I though putty had its own built in terminal emulation (which is why it's much better than say openssh).

Yes, putty needs BDS-style ptys. Tried to compile it and it also needs the ssh lib.
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/9 18:13  Updated: 2007/2/9 18:17
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@PEB

> Is there a way that I can change the screen resolution of the X11 environment? If so, how?

Please look into "Cygnix:s/Start_XGeek.bat" and edit the line

Run >NIL: <NIL: Cygnix:CygnixPPC/X11R6.3/bin/XGeekPPC -pri 0 -screen CyberGraphX@1024x768x16

to your desired resolution. Please use 16 bit depth, 32 bit is buggy with GTK 2.


> Were you going to release a newer Gimp that lets you import/export in formats such as .jpg or .png?

I think I don't release another version of gimp 1.2.5. I want to release version 2.2.13, but the plugin interface
is not working yet. Had not enough time for that.


@Menthos

> Good work! Will donate for sure soon (must get my own economics in order first)!

Great

> Any ETA for a new Amaya?

I'm not working at Amaya at the moment. But there are not much changes in the latest release.
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/9 18:20  Updated: 2007/2/9 18:20
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@ acefnq

> Fantastic work. One thing though I have found that the script does install an assign in user-startup (plays havoc with Netpanzer) and that the start-cygnix script looks for that assign. Are the docs just incorrect at this stage?

Yes, a bit. The script was created to launch cygnix without an entry in the user-startup, but it works also with these entries. The Cygnix: assign is always necessary.
orgin
Published: 2007/2/9 18:26  Updated: 2007/2/9 18:26
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd

OKi, too bad.

While talking about Gimp, what do you think about gimpshop? It's Gimp but with the GUI altered to look&feel more like photoshop to make it easier to use.

http://www.gimpshop.net/
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/9 18:46  Updated: 2007/2/9 18:46
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@orgin

> While talking about Gimp, what do you think about gimpshop? It's Gimp but with the GUI altered to look&feel more like photoshop to make it easier to use.

When gimp 2.2.13 is done, porting gimpshop should only take less than one days. If somebody is interrested in it - no problem. But it seems, that only some menus are different, or am I wrong?
orgin
Published: 2007/2/9 19:26  Updated: 2007/2/9 19:26
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@cygnusEd

Didn't find a complete list of changes in a quick search but this is what the wikipedia entry says (link to from the gimpshop pages):

"It shares GIMP's feature list, customisability, and availability on multiple platforms, while addressing some common criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop modifies the menu structure to more closely resemble Photoshop and adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's. In the Windows version, GIMPshop uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier' to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics packages. From March 2006, it supports Photoshop plugins, through a host plugin that can run on Microsoft Windows or Linux, pspi. All of GIMP's own plugins (filters, brushes, etc.) remain available.

Due to the changes to the interface of the GIMP for GIMPshop, many Photoshop tutorials can be followed in GIMPshop unchanged, and most others can be adapted for GIMPshop users with minimal effort."
walkero
Published: 2007/2/10 8:55  Updated: 2007/2/10 8:55
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
That's a great port, with no problems running it on my mA1. It looks stable and really great. But how can I install the progs that you showed that run, such as gimp 2.2.12? We follow the linux procedure?
orgin
Published: 2007/2/10 9:27  Updated: 2007/2/10 9:27
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@walkero

Just download gimp from os4depot, unarchive it and start the install script.

gimp_cygnix
COBRA
Published: 2007/2/10 9:49  Updated: 2007/2/10 9:49
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
@cygnusEd

I sent you an email with a screenshot regarding some bugs, have you received it?
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/10 11:45  Updated: 2007/2/10 11:45
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@walkero

> That's a great port, with no problems running it on my mA1. It looks stable and really great. But how can I install the progs that you showed that run, such as gimp 2.2.12? We follow the linux procedure?

Some of the apps are published on OS4-depot, some are unpublished yet. They were just added for convenience. Gimp 2.2.13 will be published later.

@COBRA

Yes - I will reply soon. I'm very busy at the moment
COBRA
Published: 2007/2/10 13:05  Updated: 2007/2/10 13:05
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@cygnusEd

No worries, I just wanted to be sure that you got my mail, that's all.
Elwood
Published: 2007/2/10 13:14  Updated: 2007/2/10 13:14
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
You could add these at the top of Start_Cygnix.bat

assign Cygnix: ""
execute Cygnix:s/Cygnix-Startup
orgin
Published: 2007/2/10 13:30  Updated: 2007/2/10 13:30
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Amiga theme:

http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/workbench_/

http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/22546.jpg

3.1 stylish though so it looks kind of crap compared to os4.
orgin
Published: 2007/2/10 14:42  Updated: 2007/2/10 14:42
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Oups, changed to transparent window dragging, instant grim.

It all seems a bit slow, I suppose no hardware acceleration is going on?
orgin
Published: 2007/2/10 19:19  Updated: 2007/2/10 19:19
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
A simple guide for how to add a toolbar to themes without one would be nice.
Snuffy
Published: 2007/2/10 21:25  Updated: 2007/2/10 21:25
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@ CygnusEd

Nice!

I did a fresh install and it's good looking and fast! Installed VIM7 immediately and the GTK menus look nice.

Installed the AddON games, but can't select anything? I'm a Xmajohngg addict! The popup menus disappear before you can select anything?

All and all, a very nice X11 desktop!
Swoop
Published: 2007/2/10 22:37  Updated: 2007/2/10 22:37
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@cygnusEd

I have just installed it, looks great, and runs fine from Amidock.

I'll have to downlaod and install the other cygnix progs from OS4Depot.

Is ther any chance of an installable version of the easytag1.1 program. I am not a programmer, and do not know how to compile it.

Thanks for all your hard work.
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/10 23:35  Updated: 2007/2/10 23:35
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@orgin

> Oups, changed to transparent window dragging, instant grim.
> It all seems a bit slow, I suppose no hardware acceleration is going on?

Transparency is not really supported. You should not use it. Hardware acceleration is a problem on normal screens. The display is built on top of the amiga gfx system.

> A simple guide for how to add a toolbar to themes without one would be nice.

Here is a tutorial page:

http://www.etherdoxproject.org/etheme_tutorials/tut1.htm

Basically the toolbar (and the other buttons) are defined "Cygnix:Home/root/.e16/themes/<themename>/buttons"
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/10 23:41  Updated: 2007/2/10 23:41
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@Snuffy

> Installed the AddON games, but can't select anything? I'm a Xmajohngg addict! The popup menus disappear before you can select anything?

Which popup menus? Can you launch the other programs?
Please make sure, that you don't have installed an old version of the abc-shell somewhere. It can cause problems.

@Swoop

> Is ther any chance of an installable version of the easytag1.1 program. I am not a programmer, and do not know how to compile it.

Easytag 1.1 should work with prerelease 3. What is the problem?
But if you are a bit patient, the latest version 1.99.33 with GTK 2 interface will be released soon.
Valiant
Published: 2007/2/11 1:09  Updated: 2007/2/11 1:09
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Quote:
Easytag 1.1 should work with prerelease 3. What is the problem?
But if you are a bit patient, the latest version 1.99.33 with GTK 2 interface will be released soon.


Easytag 1.1 works here with prerelease 3 just fine. Looking forward to trying 1.99.33.
orgin
Published: 2007/2/11 13:16  Updated: 2007/2/11 13:16
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@cygnusEd

Tried adding your buttons and menues to the theme but all I ever get is grey boxes everywhere that doesn't do anything. Perhaps a script could be made that copies everything needed from the aqua theme?

@all

If anyone manages to add the buttons and menues from the aqua theme to this theme then let me know :)

http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/lightone/

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Swoop
Published: 2007/2/12 16:00  Updated: 2007/2/12 16:00
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@cygnusED

Sorry, my fault. I had done a search for cygnix on OS4Depot, and only the easytag source showed up.

I have just searched for easytag amd both the sources and binary turned up.
I will install and try it out.
Swoop
Published: 2007/2/12 17:02  Updated: 2007/2/12 17:02
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@cygnusEd?

I have installed the following packages:-

Amaya
Cinepaint
Gimp
gvim
EasyTag

All from OS4Depot, are there any others I have missed that don't show up under a 'cygnix' search.

Also how can I use the icons shown on the menu bar at the bottom of the cygnix screen, in Amidock to launch the programs. At the moment I have an Amidock category for cygnix, with cygnix and the packages above on that dock, and I double-click to launch them, but they all use the OS4 default script icon. It would be great to use the programs actual icons.
Snuffy
Published: 2007/2/12 21:04  Updated: 2007/2/12 21:06
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Hi CygnusEd,

> Installed the AddON games, but can't select anything? I'm a Xmajohngg addict! The popup menus disappear before you can select anything?

Doh!

I forgot to switch ON the E flag!

I saw you reply at AW to Valiant! Haven't got home yet, but I'm sure that's it!

Enlightenment WM is an impressive desktop!

Thanks for great works!


Hi Swoop,
AddON -- the games package
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/13 17:39  Updated: 2007/2/13 17:40
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@ Swoop

There is also the x11-addon package with some games and gfx programs. And there is xfce, which contains some desktop tools like a filetool and a toolbar.


@ Snuffy

Hope it works


@ orgin

When I have some time left, I will have a look at lightone, but I think an easy script is not possible for that.
Snuffy
Published: 2007/2/16 21:28  Updated: 2007/2/16 21:28
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Hi CygnusEd,

Hope it works

Turned on all the 'executes' and no programs will launch. I'm using the latest abc-shell too?
I missed something
cygnusEd
Published: 2007/2/17 12:37  Updated: 2007/2/17 12:37
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@ Snuffy

For AmigaDOS scripts ("Start_xxx.bat") you need to set the S (script) flag and not the E flag!
Snuffy
Published: 2007/2/18 22:07  Updated: 2007/2/18 22:07
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 Re: Prerelease 3 of Cygnix available
Hi Edgar,

I see said the blind man! The Dos scripts were not setup for Pre2 and everything worked fine. However, they have to set for Pre3.
Everything is working fine again!!
Love your Cygnix.guide!
NIce...
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