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328gts |
Published: 2010/4/2 20:01 Updated:
2010/4/2 20:01
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Home away from home
Joined: 07/07/2009
From: Man Cave, Canada
Comments: 3127
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
welcome big brother for the Sam440 flex
I'm soo happy with my Sam440flex @800 but would have bought this 460ex in a heart beat if it were available...big congrats to ACube |
nubechecorre |
Published: 2010/4/2 20:31 Updated:
2010/4/2 20:31
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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Marko |
Published: 2010/4/2 20:53 Updated:
2010/4/2 21:22
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Quite a regular
Joined: 09/20/2008
From: Gothenburg, Sweden (via Finland)
Comments: 523
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Great news!!
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ikir |
Published: 2010/4/2 21:08 Updated:
2010/4/2 21:08
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: SYS:Prefs/
Comments: 374
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Great news. Low on money right now, I must sell something to save more money for this!
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gregthecanuck |
Published: 2010/4/2 22:24 Updated:
2010/4/2 22:25
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/05/2006
From: Vancouver, Canada
Comments: 192
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Good points:
- Twice memory performance of 440 (533 vs 266) - 256KB L2 cache - PCI-Express slots - 2GB memory capacity But.... - Only one SATA connector? This means if you want to have a system with a CD/DVD-ROM or multiple hard drives you have to invest in a PCI SATA card. This is a step backwards IMO. I wonder what drove this decision? |
orgin |
Published: 2010/4/2 22:41 Updated:
2010/4/2 22:41
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@gregthecanuck
This is from the manual: Boot The current U-Boot version support booting from the following devices: - SATA2 hard disk connected on the onboard controller port J15 (* check notes) - SATA hard disk and/or DVD connected to a Silicon Image 3112 controller on PCI slot - SATA hard disk and/or DVD connected to a Silicon Image 3114 controller on PCI slot - USB mass storage - internal SD card reader J31 - Network Perhaps you can boot from an USB CD/DVD device. |
gregthecanuck |
Published: 2010/4/2 23:27 Updated:
2010/4/3 6:27
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/05/2006
From: Vancouver, Canada
Comments: 192
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@Origin
It looks like you should have your hard drive connected to the internal SATA2 port and your DVD drive connected to USB? I am not aware of any internal USB DVD devices (somebody prove me wrong) so this means you either buy a PCI SATA card or run with an external DVD drive. Not a huge hassle but I am surprised that ACube didn't implement the SATA controller from the 440. Perhaps it was a cost issue. EDIT: Follow-up - there *are* USB to SATA adapters out there. Perhaps ACube could test/supply one as an accessory. |
Amigo1 |
Published: 2010/4/3 6:25 Updated:
2010/4/3 6:25
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Quite a regular
Joined: 12/06/2006
From:
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Great! Thanks aCube!!! looking forward for this!
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Daz |
Published: 2010/4/3 8:19 Updated:
2010/4/3 8:19
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Just popping in
Joined: 09/21/2009
From:
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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@gregthecanuck Or you could buy a Silicon Image PCI-e (1x) to SATA card, there are a number of these on e-bay. Hopefully AmigaKit etc. will include something like this with theirs. This would leave the PCI and PCI-e 16x free. Another downside though is no Xena chip.. Interesting times ahead, X1000, SAM460ex, what next.. Darren |
Hondo |
Published: 2010/4/3 8:55 Updated:
2010/4/3 8:57
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/05/2006
From: Planet Boing
Comments: 68
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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I must sell something to save more money for this! What about your soul? You would be the first Amigan to go this far (wait maybe Helgis already did it?) |
Templario |
Published: 2010/4/3 10:21 Updated:
2010/4/3 10:21
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Quite a regular
Joined: 03/28/2010
From: Palencia-Spain
Comments: 787
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Great new for this new hardware from ACube only its price.
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Kicko |
Published: 2010/4/3 12:40 Updated:
2010/4/3 12:40
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 10/25/2007
From: Gothenburg / Sweden
Comments: 1175
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Now this is a good entry level. If i didnt have A1 i should have been bought this. For me its going to be X1000.
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Tuxedo |
Published: 2010/4/3 13:07 Updated:
2010/4/3 13:08
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: Perugia, ITALY
Comments: 339
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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EDIT: Follow-up - there *are* USB to SATA adapters out there. Perhaps ACube could test/supply one as an accessory. That's a nice point! I too think that a single sata was really not sufficent! With my miggy I see DVD, play CD, make mp3/ogg from the cd, browse DVD from magazines, burn dvd with my photo, music, etc... using an external usb dvd was really ugly... So we have 2 choiche: 1 - the adapter you tell about. 2 - an internal usb device that can be cottected to an internal usb port... for my personal use the optical device was a must! Another thing I think was needed was a 128 mb card(like a Radeon9250 integrated) with more memory for a basic use of the new mobo...currently my wb setup(1680x1050 32bit) with many windows/screens eat more that 64(not more than 64 but more...), and since I will really like to use that new mobo on a little nice case, non add cards was really needed! That's only my personal opinion naturally! |
TSK |
Published: 2010/4/3 18:43 Updated:
2010/4/3 18:43
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 02/23/2007
From: Finland, the land of Santa, sauna, sisu and salmiakki
Comments: 1209
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@Tuxedo
Quote: Another thing I think was needed was a 128 mb card(like a Radeon9250 integrated) with more memory for a basic use of the new mobo...currently my wb setup(1680x1050 32bit) with many windows/screens eat more that 64(not more than 64 but more...), and since I will really like to use that new mobo on a little nice case, non add cards was really needed! SM502 can do resolution 1280x1024 max and it doesn't have 3D stuff. So you will need an addon gfx card for desktop use anyway. |
ikir |
Published: 2010/4/4 7:06 Updated:
2010/4/4 7:06
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: SYS:Prefs/
Comments: 374
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@Hondo
Yeah, i was thinking about that! LOL @all It is meant to be modular. For example i will not use a optical drive on mine. My SSD on sata and built in SD reader. I will install OS4 from SD. Apple will do the same in the near future, bye bye optical drives.... welcome sd as the new floppy. I will buy a good but cheap pci express ati. And anyway sata card are very cheap too! |
orgin |
Published: 2010/4/4 10:58 Updated:
2010/4/4 10:58
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@gregthecanuck
Perhaps one could use something like this: http://webshop.reab.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2244758;b:893;pl:1 Apparently port replication is part of the sata2 standard. So I guess it's up to how standard compliant the onboard sata is. |
samwel |
Published: 2010/4/4 15:42 Updated:
2010/4/4 15:42
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/04/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 126
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
Interesting read on AMCC site.. They have made the move from 90nm to 60nm and soon thereafter 40nm..
Hmm what if 460EX was produced in 40nm? 2.5GHz? 4cores? 1.5GHz fanless? They also have the newer 460SX which seems to lack FPU but seems better than 460EX in most regards.. |
Tuxedo |
Published: 2010/4/4 18:05 Updated:
2010/4/4 18:05
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: Perugia, ITALY
Comments: 339
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
ops...
I completely miss the 1280x1024 thing... So for me was absolutely unusable! I love my 1680x1050 res! |
COBRA |
Published: 2010/4/6 3:51 Updated:
2010/4/6 3:51
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/24/2006
From:
Comments: 370
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@Tuxedo
I think it's obvious that 99% of people will put in a decent PCI-Express Radeon card. In fact for the Amiga market ACube could sell the board without the integrated gfx chip to lower the cost as I think it'll only be interesting for the embedded market. |
Tuxedo |
Published: 2010/4/6 12:25 Updated:
2010/4/6 12:25
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: Perugia, ITALY
Comments: 339
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@corba
You're right but... I missunderstand or the chip does also the audio work? In that case we have to add a sound card too... |
gregthecanuck |
Published: 2010/4/7 3:04 Updated:
2010/4/7 3:04
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/05/2006
From: Vancouver, Canada
Comments: 192
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
@Cobra -
If I was going to purchase this board I would rather they ditch the built-in video and replace it with a 4-port SATA controller. In other words, move it closer to the 440flex. My ideal desktop would be very low-profile. I would either use a low-profile PCI-Express video card or use a right-angle adapter with a full-height card. Perhaps ACube announced the 460 model this early to see what kind of feedback they get. Even with no changes the board is very nice, but there is always room for tweaks. Cheers! |
Helgis |
Published: 2010/4/7 14:19 Updated:
2010/4/7 14:19
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 05/23/2007
From: Bergen/Norway
Comments: 416
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
It's a very good entry-level system, but like Kicko, i am going for the top-of-the-class A1-X1000. I will call mine "Xandra"
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