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nbache |
Published: 2010/7/10 22:10 Updated:
2010/7/10 22:10
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Comments: 1532
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
This is only for classic amigas/OS3.x, right? It might be kind to mention this in such a news item.
Best regards, Niels |
diegocr |
Published: 2010/7/11 13:00 Updated:
2010/7/11 13:00
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Joined: 06/01/2009
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
Was that said from a frustration feel after seeing it is not for os4? because it's obvious it is [compiled] for
However, if you would properly read the news item, you would realize it works everywhere, since it's a native port, unless petunia has become broken and i didn't heard of it. |
nbache |
Published: 2010/7/11 22:06 Updated:
2010/7/11 22:06
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Comments: 1532
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
No, I just wanted to make sure whether OS4 users should install this or not. OS4 comes with a native SSL, and although it has not been updated for a while, it might still be a better choice to stick with that for OS4? (I'm asking because I don't know enough about it. I have always found SSL and its many different versions and their frequent incompatibility towards each other a bit confusing.)
So if OS4 users install this, I assume it will replace their already existing SSL, and in that case they should at least know the consequences (if any). Best regards, Niels |
diegocr |
Published: 2010/7/12 15:48 Updated:
2010/7/12 15:49
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
ejm,ok... well, AmiSSL and OpenSSL are two independent packages (AmiSSL is based on OpenSSL) and therefore both them can coexists (it wouldn't replace anything), and like for any other m68k software, you do not need to use it if there is a version for os4 with the same features (this OpenSSL build still has some options not available on the amissl/os4 version, hence it's up to you to decide if you need it or no, that apart, i have a os4 version, but since nobody show interest i didn't care on release it), this is on the third website where i had to tell this, i hope it's now clear to everyone.
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nbache |
Published: 2010/7/12 20:53 Updated:
2010/7/12 20:53
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
Okay, cool, thanks for the info!
Best regards, Niels |
nexus |
Published: 2010/7/13 9:21 Updated:
2010/7/13 9:21
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Joined: 11/12/2008
From: Germany
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
@diegocr
sorry, I think, the problem is, that it's not quite clear what exactly is the difference between AmiSSL and OpenSSL (especially if AmiSSL is based on OpenSSL). Like nbache said, it's already confusing to have 3 different versions of AmiSSL (and in addition with different version numbers for 68k<->os4). I installed all 3 different AmiSSL versions on AmigaOS4 to get SimpleMail to be able to get access to my email provider. However, i still can't send emails via SSL. So maybe this new OpenSSL is better and SimpleMail works then better? But how can I choose from an application, which SSL-implementation should be used? Another more general question: you said the new OpenSSL has some additional features over the other AmiSSL implementations and that you even compiled an AOS4 version, right? So, wouldn't it be the best to remove all AmiSSL installations and to install just your single OpenSSL-AOS4-version? I think, it's not the problem of "no interest for a AOS4 build of your OpenSSL implementation". I'm afraid, it's rather a problem of understanding about the entire OpenSSL vs AmiSSL topic or SSL in general. Maybe you can clarify this even more for dump users like me IF SimpleMail works with OpenSSL (and all other programms that need SSL), I'd be happy to use your OpenSSL implementation -- especially the OS4 version. So, please release it! Thanks, nexus |
diegocr |
Published: 2010/7/13 18:26 Updated:
2010/7/13 18:26
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
@nexus:
AmiSSL provides shared libraries to applications, while OpenSSL by itself only provided static libraries on our platform.. since os4 now supports shared objects (those .so files coming from Linux world) one can now use those .so files to get very much the same than using AmiSSL (but this is another history..) Hence, AmiSSL and OpenSSL are quite the same (same core package/code) , just that a lot of work was put into AmiSSL to convert OpenSSL to the Amiga-way of "handling libraries"..(that's why it was renamed to AmiSSL ;) - That also means that in no way "Plain OpenSSL" builds will replace the purpose for what AmiSSL was created. One might think what's the real difference from using a shared (AmiSSL) or static (OpenSSL) version of the lib... well, as simple that using a shared lib you get smaller executable files at the cost of program's speed - using the static version is just the opposite. (I dunno if that apply to .so files as well) SimpleMail, since the sources are there, you can try to compile it using the static version of OpenSSL, and it might work better than using AmiSSL (dunno honestly) BTW, what error gives you SimpleMail? most times (to my knowledge) SSL connection errors are caused by missing/outdated root certificates, you can use the cacert.pem file included on my distro to generate a new bunch of such certificates to AmiSSL. send me a mail to dcasorran gmail dot com and i'll reply you with the os4 version to you to test it. |
nexus |
Published: 2010/7/15 8:53 Updated:
2010/7/15 8:53
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Joined: 11/12/2008
From: Germany
Comments: 161
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
I have been looking for the sources of SimpleMail but i only could find the binaries. Isn't it open source anymore/at all?
thanks, nexus |
diegocr |
Published: 2010/7/17 0:10 Updated:
2010/7/17 0:10
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Re: OpenSSL 1.0.0a (Rev#2) for AmigaOS
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