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Software News : Introducing GfxBench2D

Posted by Hans on 2011/6/19 7:44:25 (2101 reads) News by the same author

I am pleased to announce the first release of GfxBench2D.

GfxBench2D is:
- A benchmarking tool for 2D graphics (download)
- A web-app for displaying results uploaded by the benchmarking tool
- An opportunity to see some real data on graphics card performance for a wide range of graphics cards and systems

System Requirements (for the benchmarking tool):
- AmigaOS 4.x
- A truecolour capable graphics card (minimum 16-bit)

Some interesting results are already available. For example, the Radeon X1950 pro is the current king of 2D. It is the last high performance card to include a dedicated 2D blitter unit, and it shows. Some motivation for upgrading to a PCI-express capable AmigaOS machine can be found here and here. Or maybe you might like to compare a Radeon (Mobility) 4300 PCIe card to a Radeon HD 4350 PCI in an A1-XE.

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kas1e	Published: 2011/6/19 8:27 Updated: 2011/6/19 8:27
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D Pretty interesting ! Btw, as you say that X1950 pro are the best from your tests, should to add, that by all the gallium3d tests which i see on linux: x1950 are one of the fastest as well.

sofistisoftware	Published: 2011/6/19 9:04 Updated: 2011/6/19 9:04
Just popping in Joined: 01/01/2007 From: Latina, Italy Comments: 209	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D Thanks Hans ! A very nice and useful prg

Elwood	Published: 2011/6/19 9:43 Updated: 2011/6/19 9:43
Just can't stay away Joined: 12/09/2006 From: Lyon, France Comments: 1370	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D The GFX card industry has moved to supporting 3D only. Anyway, it reminds me of an ancient deal with Matrox

treke	Published: 2011/6/19 11:09 Updated: 2011/6/19 11:09
Just popping in Joined: 02/07/2009 From: Comments: 13	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D Hm, are you sure you don't have a bug on the web? The 'GfxBench2D Benchmark: ATI Radeon X1950 pro' says: Operating System (OS): AmigaOS Release 4.1 - Update 3 Produced by Hyperion Entertainment CVBA

kas1e	Published: 2011/6/19 14:43 Updated: 2011/6/19 14:47
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @elwood Quote: The GFX card industry has moved to supporting 3D only. In our case , when we have p96 gfx subsytem, and all our progs and stuff based on many 2d functions from p96/cybegraphics/cgraphics/intuition - we still need those 2d functions. As Rogue says : they want to migrate fully to 3D after gallium will introduced (i.e. making compositing via gallium), and in general there will be nothing hard, to redirect all the code from our system-2d functions to 3D layer. But right now its imho for sure not important, and thinking about replacing everything GFX related in amigaos via 3D its to early :) @Treke Update3 for now in betatesting and preparation for release , so, betatesters already have update3, and maybe its just some betatester with update3 running do the tests.

Antique	Published: 2011/6/19 15:32 Updated: 2011/6/19 15:32
Home away from home Joined: 11/30/2006 From: Norway Comments: 2628	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D Seems like i have droppen down to 3rd. Hehe Nice work Hans.

TSK	Published: 2011/6/19 16:26 Updated: 2011/6/19 16:26
Just can't stay away Joined: 02/23/2007 From: Finland, the land of Santa, sauna, sisu and salmiakki Comments: 1209	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D SiliconMotion 502 is the slowest (at the moment). But then my A1-SE is the slowest machine on the whole list with both gfx cards. (Classic users were testing with lower resolutions so maybe they're slower anyway.)

derfs	Published: 2011/6/19 17:16 Updated: 2011/6/19 17:18
Not too shy to talk Joined: 11/27/2006 From: UK Comments: 283	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D im presuming that sam460 at the top is Hans

derfs	Published: 2011/6/19 17:23 Updated: 2011/6/19 17:23
Not too shy to talk Joined: 11/27/2006 From: UK Comments: 283	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @Hans The Next result down/up links do not work when looking at individual results. missing 'benchmark' in the URL.

djrikki	Published: 2011/6/19 22:20 Updated: 2011/6/19 22:20
Quite a regular Joined: 05/16/2010 From: Grimsby, UK Comments: 950	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D SAM 460ex results, Radeon HD 4650 http://hdrlab.org.nz/Benchmark/GfxBench2D/Result/71 I hope this is 'drool' worthy enough kas1e :D

Hans	Published: 2011/6/19 22:26 Updated: 2011/6/19 22:26
Home away from home Joined: 01/26/2007 From: New Zealand Comments: 2797	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @kas1e Quote: @Treke Update3 for now in betatesting and preparation for release , so, betatesters already have update3, and maybe its just some betatester with update3 running do the tests. Correct. Some of those results are mine. @derfs Quote: im presuming that sam460 at the top is Hans No, that's someone else. My Radeon X1950 pro test takes up spot number two in the rankings. Quote: The Next result down/up links do not work when looking at individual results. missing 'benchmark' in the URL. Oops, not sure how I missed that. It's fixed now. Thanks for letting me know. Hans

kas1e	Published: 2011/6/19 22:31 Updated: 2011/6/19 22:31
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Iurntroducing GfxBench2D @djrikki Worthy enough now only x1950 pro :) In 3 times faster that your current one :)

djrikki	Published: 2011/6/19 23:06 Updated: 2011/6/19 23:06
Quite a regular Joined: 05/16/2010 From: Grimsby, UK Comments: 950	Re: Iurntroducing GfxBench2D You speed freak/geek ;p

treke	Published: 2011/6/20 6:19 Updated: 2011/6/20 6:19
Just popping in Joined: 02/07/2009 From: Comments: 13	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @kas1e, Hans Thanks, gotcha. I was hoping for this answer :) (i've seen comments that U3 is being prepared, but not that is being tested) So you can spill a bean. What in U3 is related to gfx improvement, so it is worth to test ?

kas1e	Published: 2011/6/20 9:19 Updated: 2011/6/20 9:19
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @treke Quote: What in U3 is related to gfx improvement, so it is worth to test ? As i know, in update3 will come new version of rtg.library with different kind of improvements, one of which, is some kind of DMA-related speedup for SAM machines (dunno, if it will make sense for peg2/a1). And just by checking update3 results and update2 from hanz site, i see that for update3 are uses: Quote: exec.library 53.16 graphics.library 53.5 intuition.library 53.32 Picasso96API.library 2.359 rtg.library 41.4351 While for update2: Quote: exec.library 53.15 graphics.library 53.4 intuition.library 53.30 Picasso96API.library 2.356 rtg.library 41.4347 So, every library related to tests was revised few times each. But of course, will be cool to see list of what exactly was changed in every library beetwen versions in the update2 and update3.

sofistisoftware	Published: 2011/6/20 11:10 Updated: 2011/6/20 11:22
Just popping in Joined: 01/01/2007 From: Latina, Italy Comments: 209	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D it's not correct the most recent version would be: exec.library 53.16 graphics.library 53.5 intuition.library 53.32 Picasso96API.library 3.1 <--- rtg.library 42.1 <--- the DMA implementation on Sam machines and in the rtg.library as Max said on italian forum: From two test at the first place (Sam460ex + X1950 Pro) #1(http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/Result/37) and #2(http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/Result/4), you can see the difference with or without the DMA activated, where the first one, the MemCopy shows a peak of 730 MB/s using WritePixelArray, while a peak of 190 MB/s in the second without DMA activated, there's a big difference ! Max (ACube) did a good job, thanks. p.s: on the fifth and sixth place there are my results: Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 ddr3 Sam460ex 1920×1080@60 (32 bit) 3,333.82 Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 ddr3 Sam460ex 1680×1050@60 (32 bit) 3,307.74 Regards

kas1e	Published: 2011/6/20 11:13 Updated: 2011/6/20 11:15
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @sofistisoftware Interesting. So looks like hanz have just some old-first update3 beta-test version.. Related to DMA its indeed sounds cool. Strange through why new versions not listed on the "good" benchmark, and they are the same as with or without DMA. Also interesting to know, if it only SAM related DMA addon in rtg.library, or it will also have improvements on peg2 ? But so fast WPA its always cool. I imagine that SDL with update3 and with RadeonHD drivers will rockz hard.

Hans	Published: 2011/6/20 11:46 Updated: 2011/6/20 11:46
Home away from home Joined: 01/26/2007 From: New Zealand Comments: 2797	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @sofistisoftware Quote: it's not correct the most recent version would be: exec.library 53.16 graphics.library 53.5 intuition.library 53.32 Picasso96API.library 3.1 <--- rtg.library 42.1 <--- Those version numbers belong to an experimental version of Picasso96 on my machine that is not synced with the trunk version. I forgot about that when I ran the tests. Hans

Antique	Published: 2011/6/22 20:17 Updated: 2011/6/22 20:17
Home away from home Joined: 11/30/2006 From: Norway Comments: 2628	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @kas1e Results from my 4890 http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/Result/121

kas1e	Published: 2011/6/22 20:47 Updated: 2011/6/22 20:47
Home away from home Joined: 09/11/2007 From: Russia Comments: 9109	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @Antique Not bad. Almost as x1950. Assume that with x1950 , 1920x1080 mode give 5.000.000, and your one are 1920x1200 give 4.400.000, its almost the same :)

Hans	Published: 2011/6/23 1:36 Updated: 2011/6/23 1:36
Home away from home Joined: 01/26/2007 From: New Zealand Comments: 2797	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @Antique Quote: Results from my 4890 [url]http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/Result/121[/url] That's better than I was expecting. I didn't realise that the 4890 was that much better than the 4850. It would be interesting to see how it performs using exactly the same screen-mode as the 4850 below it. Hans I'm skipping the "Radeon 4800" result because a "4800" doesn't actually exist, and we don't know which particular model it is. It would be helpful if people could submit full graphics card details using the links provided on the result page. That way we have the most accurate information possible.

Antique	Published: 2011/6/23 6:50 Updated: 2011/6/23 6:50
Home away from home Joined: 11/30/2006 From: Norway Comments: 2628	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D Quote: That's better than I was expecting. I didn't realise that the 4890 was that much better than the 4850. It would be interesting to see how it performs using exactly the same screen-mode as the 4850 below it. The number 3 and 4 are made on the same machine. Quote: I'm skipping the "Radeon 4800" result because a "4800" doesn't actually exist, and we don't know which particular model it is. It would be helpful if people could submit full graphics card details using the links provided on the result page. That way we have the most accurate information possible. Have fixed that now.

Hans	Published: 2011/6/23 8:09 Updated: 2011/6/23 8:09
Home away from home Joined: 01/26/2007 From: New Zealand Comments: 2797	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @Antique Thanks for submitting the Radeon HD 4850's details. Quote: The number 3 and 4 are made on the same machine. So that makes it an accurate comparison between the two. Nice. The other interesting comparison would be a test at the same resolution as the X1950 pro above it. I'm unable to repeat the X1950 test at 1920x1200 though, as my monitor goes up to 1920x1080. Hans

Hans	Published: 2011/6/23 8:21 Updated: 2011/6/23 8:22
Home away from home Joined: 01/26/2007 From: New Zealand Comments: 2797	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @kas1e Quote: @Antique Not bad. Almost as x1950. Assume that with x1950 , 1920x1080 mode give 5.000.000, and your one are 1920x1200 give 4.400.000, its almost the same :) What I find more interesting is that the X1950 is faster in 2D blits, but the 4890 makes up lost ground in the compositing tests, where both cards have to use the 3D GPU. While it remains to be seen, this suggests that the 4890 will be better for 3D. Also interesting are the peak performance results obtained when rendering large rectangles. Large blits are least affected by the PCIe bandwidth, and so gives an idea of the maximum performance that the card could achieve without that bottleneck. The X1950 pro once again beats the 4890 in peak blitter performance. However, in the compositing tests, the 4890 is leaving the X1950 pro in the dust. Hans

Antique	Published: 2011/7/4 19:58 Updated: 2011/7/4 19:58
Home away from home Joined: 11/30/2006 From: Norway Comments: 2628	Re: Introducing GfxBench2D @Hans Here you go: http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/Result/171