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ssolie |
Published: 2012/3/20 15:51 Updated:
2012/3/20 15:51
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/26/2006
From: Canada
Comments: 986
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
I contacted GPSoft myself a while back. The deal is for 5000 AUD and a small royalty on sales you get a license for the old source code.
I think that it is far too much money for such ancient code. Add to that there have been multiple attempts at porting Magellan already which have failed. That does not give me a good feeling so I consider the project risk to be high. As for the public bounty, I don't like the AROS license requirement. Instead, put it under a much less complex license which has a chance of being enforced when push comes to shove. Finally, I don't think Magellan has that much to offer AmigaOS 4.x. I would rather users put their money into projects like Filer or any of the other bounties on OpenAmiga. |
kas1e |
Published: 2012/3/20 16:07 Updated:
2012/3/20 16:14
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Home away from home
Joined: 09/11/2007
From: Russia
Comments: 9111
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
@ssolie
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Thats new contact we do, and its not matter on sales and royalites. There is deal for get source code fully, and be able to use it on any amiga and amiga like os, as well as imporve it as we all wish. And you again mean only amigaos, what mean in case of your old contact it will be closed for all the others => not interested for users and developers from other camps Quote:
I do not know those developers who tryed to do it back in the past, but: 1). pretty possible they just was't skilled enough 2). developers mostly ego-centric, and fear to ask for help, that reasson of fail all the time 3). guru mediation says that they already have worked version, just some bits stop them to release it => i.e it was already ported, just legality boredom as usual. That all not only for amigaos4, but also for aros, os3 and even morphos, i.e. for everything. And that is big pluse even for aos4, because as you know there is many good developers in other camps, who prove that they have good skills, and we all can do everything, and does not matter what problems and who have back in the past when tryint to port it. Quote:
What wrong with it ? You can port it to any amiga or amiga like os, and use it with no problems. There is nothing more we all need. Quote:
Are you for real ? I mean you really think that magelln has nothing to offer for aos4 ? Quote:
You think only about amigaos4, right ? But its about all the oses. We just put it on amigans just in case to found more donations as well from ppls who want to see it on aos4 too. To add, did you see any updates of Filer in last year ? Im not. Will we even see new versions of Filer in future ? Pretty possible, but pretty possible that there will be not time for it on develoeprs side, and because of that Magelan can be good piece of software on aos4 as well. |
kas1e |
Published: 2012/3/20 16:31 Updated:
2012/3/20 16:31
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Home away from home
Joined: 09/11/2007
From: Russia
Comments: 9111
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
@all
~2100 currently, ~3500 left. ps. We also will try lately, when we will reach 3000, to contact gpsoft again,to ask that maybe 3000 is better than nothing , maybe we will be lucky. |
AmiKit |
Published: 2012/3/20 23:15 Updated:
2012/3/20 23:15
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Quite a regular
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Europe
Comments: 532
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
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We also will try lately, when we will reach 3000, to contact gpsoft again,to ask that maybe 3000 is better than nothing , maybe we will be lucky. Good idea! |
BillE |
Published: 2012/3/21 16:27 Updated:
2012/3/21 16:27
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 639
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
I loved Magellan when running OS3 on an A1200.
However, the XE and X1000 running OS4.1 and further mean that Magellan is *much* less important than it used to be. If GPSoftware had any interest in the Amiga anymore they would still be producing for it themselves rather than asking money for really old code. They ditched us and now want cash from us - no way. I'd rather donate to improving the OS4 workbench to have some of the Magellan functionality, a lot of it we won't even need . I would also not be too happy any donation I spend going towards AROS. I spent a lot on my next gen Amigas and do not want to subsidise AROS cheapskates running a copied OS on cheap hardware. BTW. I'd definately donate some more to get a further updated MUI-OWB running on OS4 ! |
kas1e |
Published: 2012/3/21 17:01 Updated:
2012/3/21 17:03
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Home away from home
Joined: 09/11/2007
From: Russia
Comments: 9111
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
@BillE
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The only problem, that no one trying to imporove workbench to even level of the filer, not saying about any of magellan features. Only few new bits here and here, but nothing really good. Wb still didn't have normal navigation panels in their windowses (which can be on/off). When all of this functionality will be added ? Pretty possible _very-very_ not soon, as we know all the other priorities. The same for Filer - no one know when works on it will continues. The only solution for few next years (till , if ever, WB will be impoved radically or rewriten) its to have some wellknown piece of SW : magellan. But sure, everyone feel free to donate or not. |
cha05e90 |
Published: 2012/3/21 17:15 Updated:
2012/3/21 17:15
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Quite a regular
Joined: 03/10/2009
From: Germany
Comments: 651
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
@kas1e
It's not only about "navigation buttons". If really someone is going to replace Workbench with something it has to work like a Workbench. Since Release 3.9 a lot of stuff (at least here) depends on the (in the meantime) rather comprehensive ARexx functionality. So it's not only the GUI - you need to carbon copy some more than that. Not impossible - but a "plain" port of Magellan would be more or less useless for me personally. One of the reasons why I never replaced my OS3.9 Workbench of my A2000s with a (unusable buggy) Scalos or the Magellan predecessors (DOpus 5.x). And this hard tasks had to be done *after* we spend already some thousands for the Magellan sources... Stay optimistic! |
spotUP |
Published: 2012/3/26 10:31 Updated:
2012/3/26 10:31
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/26/2006
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Comments: 1492
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Re: Real Unity: Directory Opus Magellan II for all Amiga ...
hmmm my name haven't shown up in the list of donors yet?
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