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| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/25 9:22 Updated:
2013/4/25 9:22
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 Re: NetSurf 3.0 releasedWith this early JavaScript-Support it may become a useable Browser for everydays Tasks like Mui-OWB. I´m curious and will test it in the evening.
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| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/25 9:51 Updated:
2013/4/25 9:51
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Don't expect too much from the JavaScript, it is very limited at the moment.
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| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/25 11:56 Updated:
2013/4/25 11:56
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Quote:
Don't expect too much from the JavaScript, it is very limited at the moment. If it work with Ebay and Amazon, me and my Wife would be happy  |
| nubechecorre |
Published: 2013/4/25 14:30 Updated:
2013/4/25 14:30
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released great news! i test it immediatly :)
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| nubechecorre |
Published: 2013/4/25 14:58 Updated:
2013/4/25 14:58
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Impressive! good improvements!
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| eliyahu |
Published: 2013/4/25 19:01 Updated:
2013/4/25 19:01
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 06/17/2010
From: Waterbury, Connecticut (USA)
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 Re: NetSurf 3.0 released@Chris
very much looking forward to installing this when i get home tonight. i did notice, though, that printing is now officially disabled. are there any plans for adding printing support back at some point? -- eliyahu |
| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/25 19:55 Updated:
2013/4/25 19:55
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Wow! It's faaast! Specially the rendering is impressing so far, very fast scrolling. I'm impressed! I think i will use it now as my mainbrowser on AmigaOS except for sides that require muiowb.
Gratulations, you did a good job so far! |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/25 20:01 Updated:
2013/4/25 20:01
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @eliyahu
I've brought up that issue in every society AGM since it was disabled. It's definitely on the list, unfortunately I suspect there's only one person who actually knows what needs to be done to fix it (and it's not me!). http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Development_Plan - currently listed under "3.0". |
| Cass |
Published: 2013/4/25 20:37 Updated:
2013/4/25 20:37
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Just got it from AmiUpdate, and failed to install :
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| djrikki |
Published: 2013/4/25 20:55 Updated:
2013/4/25 20:55
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Quite a regular
Joined: 05/16/2010
From: Grimsby, UK
Comments: 950
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Same install error.
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| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/25 21:11 Updated:
2013/4/25 21:11
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Why noone is using the new Installer provided within Sys:Utilities/Installer?
It's working always! |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/25 21:16 Updated:
2013/4/25 21:16
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @fingus
Actually that's not the problem here - it's an error in the script which occurs when updating from 2.9. I've fixed it in the archive but it probably won't update until tomorrow. The workaround is to install in a new location, or to replace the install script with this one: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsur ... f0f792ebc78be1b53b35f9240 If you're using AmiUpdate try again tomorrow and it should be fine. |
| samo79 |
Published: 2013/4/25 21:52 Updated:
2013/4/25 21:52
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Home away from home
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Italy, Perugia
Comments: 3786
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Thanks Chris, it works good so far
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| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/25 22:37 Updated:
2013/4/25 22:38
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Just popping in
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released got a smooth scrolling by setting this configuration up:
redraw_tile_size_x:3200 redraw_tile_size_y:2400 window_simple_refresh:1 (smoother scrolling without using mousewheel) cairo_renderer:1 (is default 0 but that makes no difference) faster_scroll:1 (is on by default) screen_compositing:0 (seems to break a little bit if turned on) and i gave it 512MB RAM for caching in Prefs -> Cache -> Systemram But when moving/scrolling the webside faster up or down i can see the blitting(?), a small grey area on top or bottom for a short time. And what did "direct_render:0"? I found nothing about it on the webpage/docs. Netsurf 3.0 have stolen my heart! This is how webbrowsing should be  |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/26 0:31 Updated:
2013/4/26 0:31
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @fingus
You might like to change "cache native versions" to "all" as well as that speeds up image redraws (at the expense of eating memory) Switching off font anti-aliasing speeds up text rendering (at the expense of jaggy text) Quote: But when moving/scrolling the webside faster up or down i can see the blitting(?), a small grey area on top or bottom for a short time. That's normal - even browsers on tablets do this. The reason it happens on NetSurf is because the visible screen is moved before the newly revealed bits are drawn. It's not easy to fix, and any fix is going to make scrolling less responsive. Turning off fast scrolling eliminates it completely, but scrolling isn't as quick then... Quote:
Intentionally undocumented - for debugging purposes only. Don't touch it. |
| fingus |
Published: 2013/4/26 8:24 Updated:
2013/4/26 8:24
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Quote:
You might like to change "cache native versions" to "all" as well as that speeds up image redraws (at the expense of eating memory) You mean for Images? I have already set this to all. Its nice! My SAM460 have 1,7 GB free memory, so i gave 512MB RAM to Netsurf and 200MB free Videomem (RadeonHD6570). It seems NetSurf is the only browser at this time that is using most of the graphic power an NG-Amiga can offer. Quote: The reason it happens on NetSurf is because the visible screen is moved before the newly revealed bits are drawn. Can´t double buffering solve this? It seems Firefox on Windows did it by that way. But this is truely not so important. I did not see a big difference by testing rendering by: 1. graphics.library, 2. Cairo + gfx.lib, 3. Cairo. What is the best theoretically for my setup? You did really a good job, Chris. NetSurf 3.0 feels like Ibrowse in terms of speed but with the capabilities of modern Browsing. I will made a nice theme for it. |
| Elwood |
Published: 2013/4/26 11:09 Updated:
2013/4/26 12:57
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/09/2006
From: Lyon, France
Comments: 1370
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @Chris and the Netsurf team
 Nice job! Chris, maybe you should add the build version in the about box and in the $VER string. That would help betatesters help you |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/26 16:04 Updated:
2013/4/26 16:04
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @fingus
Quote: Can´t double buffering solve this? Yes, probably, but that's even more graphics mem being used and I'm running out as it is. Quote: I did not see a big difference by testing rendering by: 1. graphics.library, 2. Cairo + gfx.lib, 3. Cairo. What is the best theoretically for my setup? The second looks best. The third is really slow. Pick 1 or 2. @elwood Quote:
It is already. There's no build number for release versions though - so it isn't in $VER to prevent it jumping around. about:testament shows the Git revision if that's helpful. |
| trixie |
Published: 2013/4/26 16:21 Updated:
2013/4/26 16:21
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 05/01/2009
From: Czech Republic
Comments: 1624
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @chris
The program file's date string says "NetSurf 3.1 (21.4.2013)" but the About window has "NetSurf 3.0 (20th April 2013)". Further, the update seems to be registered with the date of "22.4.2013" so AmiUpdate now keeps telling me about an available update despite me already having it installed. Could you please fix this? |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/26 16:56 Updated:
2013/4/26 16:56
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3409
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @trixie
Oops, fixed. btw, the 3.0/3.1 thing is because 3.0 isn't a valid AmigaOS-style version number (although I can see this getting confusing quite quickly) |
| pseudaxos |
Published: 2013/4/26 16:58 Updated:
2013/4/26 16:58
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Just popping in
Joined: 03/05/2008
From: France (Bretagne)
Comments: 188
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released I get problems running Netsurf here.
It crashes when I launch the soft.. Here is the log (I wish you'll be able to help me ?!) Crash log for task "ramlib" Generated by GrimReaper 53.5 Crash occured in module iconv.library at address 0x7D6B2064 Symbol info: Instruction pointer 0x7D6B2064 belongs to module "iconv.library" (HUNK/Kickstart) Stack trace: module LIBS:iconv.library at 0x7D6B2064 (section 3 @ 0x4C) native kernel module kernel+0x00062e18 Thanks |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/26 18:51 Updated:
2013/4/26 18:51
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3409
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @pseudaxos
Download the latest debug build from here: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/amiga/ If it still crashes, I'll need you to launch it with: netsurf -v *>ram:ns.log Then send me ram:ns.log and a new crashlog |
| pseudaxos |
Published: 2013/4/26 20:24 Updated:
2013/4/26 22:30
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Just popping in
Joined: 03/05/2008
From: France (Bretagne)
Comments: 188
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @ chris,
I'll test it tomorrow . Thanks for your great work ! 23: 30 ==> It works fine +++ ! Thank you Chris ! |
| cha05e90 |
Published: 2013/4/28 9:26 Updated:
2013/4/28 9:26
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Quite a regular
Joined: 03/10/2009
From: Germany
Comments: 651
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @chris
Just installed, excellent work! I like the hotlist button bar, very handy. |
| AmigaBlitter |
Published: 2013/4/28 11:07 Updated:
2013/4/28 11:07
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/22/2006
From: Italy, Rome
Comments: 594
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Doesn't work for me.
I get the following error (pressing ignore DSI errors): unable to resolve symbol 'lwc_intern_caseless_string' failed to resolve symbol at runtime. Process 'NetSurf' has been suspended. Sam440ep |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/28 11:16 Updated:
2013/4/28 11:16
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3409
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @AmigaBlitter
Sounds like you've installed 3.0 but are still trying to run the 2.9 executable - either by mistake or it hasn't installed properly. Try a fresh install into a new location. |
| ScottCabit |
Published: 2013/4/29 2:06 Updated:
2013/4/29 2:06
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Just popping in
Joined: 04/18/2007
From: Port Canaveral, FL
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released I reinstalled Netsurf 3.0 yesterday and still get the exact same errors I did after the first time I tried it:
"The tree was unable to be correctly loaded". I click OK and get another error: "An unexpected error occurred" Thats it. No internet access in netsurf. The window opens but remains blank. I have a micro A1 with 512M RAM. All previous versions of Netsurf worked (and no longer do now by the way). Any idea why it doesn't work? Am I missing a required library or something? |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/4/29 7:47 Updated:
2013/4/29 7:47
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3409
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @ScottCabit
Rename your Hotlist (in users/Default). There must be something in it NetSurf no longer likes. |
| ScottCabit |
Published: 2013/5/3 5:18 Updated:
2013/5/3 5:18
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Just popping in
Joined: 04/18/2007
From: Port Canaveral, FL
Comments: 80
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released @Chris
I tried renaming my hotlist file in users/defailt to hotlist.bad. Didn;t make any difference. I still get the same error...and no internet access when I manually type in a web site. |
| Chris |
Published: 2013/5/8 15:40 Updated:
2013/5/8 15:40
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3409
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Re: NetSurf 3.0 released Try a fresh install.
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