I would subscribe if there would be more OS4 coverage and content. Now it's basically targeting the classic market.

@geennaam

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It's even worse with Amiga Addict

@geennaam

+1

Yeah, sadly there are less os4/mos content in AmigaFuture with years, and that not because there less to cover, but IMHO because there less NG authors of articles, IMHO.

As for Amiga Addict, I bought half of a year ago few issues of it and was totally disappointed, because it was told “we cover all Amiga and NG”, but in reality it's totally 68k only, and more of the "nostalgia" kind. There are none os4/mos/aros topics covered, and not because nothing happens, but because magazine just not targeted for us.

I for myself can count a lot of topics and news which can be filled in the Amiga mags every few months easy, just someone should be “in” and have a wish to make a magazine for us :) I don't how it now, but some time ago in Poland there were some AmigaNG magazine and it was pretty filled by content.

Amiga NG stopped being published on paper due to problems such as few subscribers and other external ones, it was a good magazine edited by Adam, and indeed it had articles for all systems, not only Amiga Classic, the biggest problem was that it was only published in Polish, but I insist it was a very good magazine.

The problem of subscribing to some magazines is the postman, sometimes they put the folded envelope, and they damage the magazine, another problem is that subscribing to a magazine with a Cover CD without exclusive content, programs and games that you can download from Amiga storages is spend money for nothing, also in some cases the Cover CD software is outdated.

@kas1e

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The magazine was pretty good! I hear it folded mainly because it had become harder and harder to get articles written on a regular basis. Also, the publisher Adam Zalepa quit his business and literally disappered. The magazine staff tried to find another publisher, but they didn't succeed unfortunately.

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It would have been possible some two years ago, but now the price of paper and printing has increased so much that making a niche magazine for a small community like ours would be too much of a financial risk. Mind you, I'd love to see a print magazine focusing on AmigaOS4, but I just don't see it as realistic.

@Dan Today anyway our hobby is not about money, so when i mean someone making a mag, it of course mean he will have no money from, but instead will spend money on only and cover only parcel-send prices :)

@trixie
The publisher of Amiga NG is Adam Mierzwa, https://www.facebook.com/MagazynAmigaNG/
and yes the problem is the is the impression.
https://amiga.org.pl/

@Templario

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No, he isn't. Adam Mierzwa is editor-in-chief. The publisher was Adam Zalepa, whose company Bitronic published several other computer magazines, and books.

@kas1e

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Of course the mag wouldn't make any profit. But it would need to make enough to also cover the cost of paper and printing, which is currently very high. Compared to this, postage is peanuts.

It would be exactly to say that we existed before Adam Zalepa (Amigenet/Bitronic) and we exist after him. There are simply too few people interested in NG in Poland. After the fall of the Bitronic Publishing House, we thought that the readers would come to us, but no - the paper version ended, buying ended too. There are about 20 people determined to electronic form in Poland, unfortunately it is not enough, it doesn't make sense. But we will issue a PDF/EPUB one number this year.

As for the English version, I have too weak English for this. There is talk of a hobby, creating from passion, for pleasure, for free. But when it comes to which motivation falls without remuneration and people crumble. And such projects do not cling to business. There is no money, everyone "has no time";]

@Adam

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Yes. As you know best of all, making a magazine is commitment and involves a lot of work. You can produce an issue or two working for free, purely out of passion. But then you start getting problems with content: motivation goes down, it's difficult to get articles written, you spend more and more time begging people to please do their part. The initial passion withers, you realize the project begins to resemble your own uncalled-for one-man travelling circus. It's difficult to go on like this if you get nothing in return.

@geennaam

We actually always try to make the best possible mix in the Amiga Future. Mostly not always simply because the releases are not aimed at what we would like. A main topic is certainly 68k Amiga. But 68k also runs on AmigaOS 4.
And of course we have this space problem, which we would like to eliminate with this campaign.

@kas1e

Yes, kas1e, you are of course right about that. One of the reasons that there are fewer OS4/MOS articles in the magazine (besides the space problem) is of course that you need someone who can also write an article.

@trixie

Well, postage peanuts... :) We pay for shipping the Amiga Future outside of Germany:

1.05 euros for each package
+ 8.80 euros / KG
+ EUR 1000 contract fee at the post office
+ Fees for payment transactions
+ tax


Unfortunately, making a magazine is a hell of a lot of work. In the Amiga area there has never been a magazine that lasted 25 years. We would like to do more pages, preferably 80 or 100 per issue. But we have to take small steps. And with this campaign we are trying to get 4 additional pages. Gladly also 8. :) Then there would also be space for more articles. In practically every issue we have to delete articles because there is no more space. Basically it depends on the sales volume. The higher the sales volume, the more pages you can make. This is because when printing a newspaper, the printing costs become cheaper and cheaper the more issues are printed. Fixed costs such as the postal contract, invoicing software and and and... are then spread over more issues.

@AndreasM

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Yes. I've said this in a context that is rather different from Amiga Future's. We were discussing an AmigaOS4-only magazine with limited readership, that is, one that could hardly hope for a print-run exceeding 200 copies. In such a situation, postage would represent a cost incomparable to the cost of paper and printing. And you certainly wouldn't need a 1000-EUR contract with the post office to hurl 200 copies out.

That with the postal contract (press mail) is such a thing. Of course you don't need an extra press contract for newspapers at the post office in Germany.
But then you pay at least 4-5 euros postage abroad, within Germany 2-2.50 euros, plus tax and costs for payment transactions.

That would then be "Warenpost". But you also need a contract for that. This contract is free. But there is the condition that you have to send a minimum amount per year. If you don't manage to do that, you have a huge problem. Then you have to go abroad as a send a normal parcel for 7 euros and more.

Outside the EU, however, you have to fill out a customs declaration for every shipment with Warenpost and normal packages. This is not necessary for press mail.

(Based on the prices at the German post office)

This means that the postage costs are very quickly higher than the pure printing costs.

I'm assuming that APC&TCP will get the 20,000 euros in shipping costs this year and over 5,000 euros for payment transactions. Just to name a few numbers. :)

Massive!

The problem of today is that everything costs so much, and everybody wants to take a cut from what you do! It's become hard to do things independently, on a small scale, out of love.

Oh, there are many more costs and problems. :)
E.g. that we have to use the sales tax of the EU countries and have to settle them there as well.
We in Germany have to pay for recycling (an extra fee has to be paid for each envelope), extra software for billing and taxes is required. (The software alone costs well over 1,000 euros/year). We have to send specimen copies to the library, you have to pay close attention to all the legal regulations, sales tax, trade tax and so on, the list is extremely long. Just a small part of what we do. :)

Little things like envelopes for the Amiga Future cost 800 euros each year.

When someone transfers money to our regular bank account, the bank charges us 22-45 cents each time. With PayPal, a fee of 4-5 euros can sometimes accrue for an Amiga Future subscription abroad.

Don't mistake it! I don't want to whine here! This is all completely normal and must be done by everyone over a certain size. For us here, this is everyday life. I just wanted to list a few costs and problems that the user never sees or knows about.